David Lammy

(30 Posts)
mrsmuddlepies Sun 26-Jun-16 20:23:59

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-result-latest-david-lammy-mp-eu-referendum-result-parliament-twitter-statement-stop-this-a7102931.html

Will David Lammy or Theresa May provide a figurehead for a coalition of MPs to 'stop the madness'? Might a GE provide an opportunity for MPs to stand on a platform of remaining in the EU and allowing a second referendum in two years or so?

PurpleDaisies Sun 26-Jun-16 20:25:56

Short answer-no. We lost the referendum. There's no coming back from this. We're going to come out of the EU.

PurpleDaisies Sun 26-Jun-16 20:26:42

No.

We lost. We're coming out of the EU. There's absolutely no other course of action now.

PurpleDaisies Sun 26-Jun-16 20:27:10

Argh. Sorry for the double post. MN playing up on my phone.

OrangesandLemonsNow Sun 26-Jun-16 20:27:59

No. All other MPs for Labour and Tories have said they will abide by the result.

Collymollypuff Sun 26-Jun-16 20:29:57

Yes, there is plenty of opportunity to reverse this catastrophe.

The LibDems and the SNP, as I understand it, will both campaign for this disaster not to stand.

BurnTheBlackSuit Sun 26-Jun-16 20:31:04

No, David Lammy is a prick

JamieVardysParty Sun 26-Jun-16 21:08:23

Imagine if one of the candidates who lost to him in the election for his seat had turned around and said that he wants a re-vote.

He is ridiculous and has surely alienated a certain percentage of people in his constituency.

TheRollingCrone Sun 26-Jun-16 21:14:54

I sat and cried on Friday.But this would be a dangerous precedent. The Government asked a stupid question and got a stupid answer.

It done, we have to get through it. I fucking dread the future Tbh.

ScOffasDyke Sun 26-Jun-16 22:02:45

Yes. Brexit would be an unmitigated disaster, and Parliament has a duty to do what is best for the UK. A referendum is simply a massive opinion poll, and is not binding.
There is no politician who wants to invoke article 50 as they would go down in history as a twat second only to Cameron.

Pangurban1 Sun 26-Jun-16 22:37:48

There is the idea going around of another referendum to give a mandate to a plan or set of plans. People could reject them.

Collymollypuff Sun 26-Jun-16 22:39:46

There will have to be a general election in any case, so manifestoes will be required. Detailed ones, not just fag packet bigotry.

Pangurban1 Sun 26-Jun-16 22:40:48

As time goes on and the reality of the implications on so many levels become apparent, it becomes more difficult to believe it is really happening.

And the carelessness with which this referendum was entered into.

BeenThereDoneThatForgotten Sun 26-Jun-16 22:46:36

Everyone is reeling a bit at the moment, but I honestly believe that a Brexit will not happen. It would be a disaster for the country. Even many Brexiters are realising that now. The referendum is not binding on Parliament.

Littlemisslovesspiders Sun 26-Jun-16 23:04:46

Of I was him at this exact moment in time I'd be more worried that my party was imploding.

Luckymummy22 Sun 26-Jun-16 23:08:56

I'm devastated with the vote.
I think it will go down in history as.the most.most stupid thing we have done.
But done it we have. The damage is down. We're heading into recession. We've no effective govt which means EU most likely will have chance to regroup & dictate the terms of our exit.

But exit we must. We're already the laughing stock, we now need to make the best of a very bad decision & be the poor relation looking enviously from now on.

gunting Sun 26-Jun-16 23:17:35

I hope that brexit doesn't really happen. I am devastated in so many ways.

Collymollypuff Sun 26-Jun-16 23:29:50

"Exit we must" - not at all. On the contrary.

TinySalmon Sun 26-Jun-16 23:36:36

I'm an out and proud LEAVER and have no "bregret" in my decision.

David Lammy STILL doesn't get it - millions in the Labour heartland of the North voted to leave and now this Labour MP is going against the will of his own people. I don't get it.

I can categorically say there will be no second referendum on this in the next 10 years. Structurally, legally, constitutionally, it makes it near impossible and also slaps democracy in the face.

The Lib Dems saying they will campaign based on offering a referendum to rejoin the EU is laughable - good luck with all 8 of your MPs... Scotland cannot block Brexit in Parliament, it will lead to huge constitutional and legal problems for them. Nicola Sturgeon is smart(ish) and will chose the battles she can win (like calling a 2nd Scottish independence referendum).

gunting Sun 26-Jun-16 23:40:48

But millions in the Labour heartland of the north voted to remain too. I know most people won't have 'bregret' but it's upsetting to hear of the people that do.

HisNameWasPrinceAndHeWasFunky Sun 26-Jun-16 23:41:30

I this this idea will gain momentum and the issue will probably be solved to a general election.

Guardian article - there are more MP's thinking along these lines than Lammy
http://gu.com/p/4mymc?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Luckymummy22 Sun 26-Jun-16 23:43:50

That would be me my ideal. But I think a lot of damage has already been done. And if the vote was ignored I thinK we could have real trouble.
We would need a rerun with a significant majority for remain & I can't see that happening.
I'm disgusted as we should never have had the vote in the 1st place. But I think we need to go.
Apart from Scotland & Northern Ireland. I hope they manage to stay in the EU.

gunting Sun 26-Jun-16 23:44:38

When is the commons vote?

Collymollypuff Mon 27-Jun-16 00:01:34

A general election in the autumn is pretty much inevitable.

If a second referendum were held, there would be a vast majority for Remain because the Leave lies have been unmasked.

Itinerary Mon 27-Jun-16 01:41:43

No, definitely not. The point of having a referendum is to see who gets the most votes and then act on it. People should stop trying to move the goalposts and pretending it's acceptable.

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