Rainbow babies- for all of us holding, pregnant with and trying for our rainbows. While remembering all our darling angels

[Moominsarescary]

Hoping the thread brings us luck and that soon we will all be holding our rainbows xx

[fanjodisfunction]

Thankyou moomin for the new thread and ellypoo* for the old.

May this thread bring us joy with the births of rainbows and also BFP's

wtw if your waters go, what are the plans, have the hospital put any plans in place for that? Fx its just the little one moving down and resting on your cervix.
I know what you mean, it just annoyed me, I was being AIBU.

[Mechavivzilla]

Thank you Moomin and Elly for the threads.

Hoping this one will also bring us luck and support.

fan I know what you mean. I guess it is a reality for us all the time, every minute of every day, but other people have the luxury of forgetting. Then something happens that reminds them and they think of us. The asking if you like someone more because of a shared experience is just plain odd! I have sympathy for Amanda Holden, but still find her really annoying ;)

*WTW 36 weeks! Wow!

Hello everyone x

[Ellypoo]

Thanks for the new thread moomin x

Just heard news about Gary Barlow, my heart does go out to them because we have been there and know how hard it is/going to be for them all. It's just so sad, I just hope that it helps raise awareness of stillbirth and neonatal death, and that can only help to find research and try to get the rates down.

I saw an old friend yesterday who is pg with her second DC and it just really upset me - how hard this all is for us. I know that if/when I get pg it's only going to get harder during the pregnancy etc but at least I'd be a step closer to holding MY baby.

Hope you're feeling a bit more positive today fan

Well done blizy on your new mindee, can't be easy.

[waves] to everyone x

[Whatevertheweather]

Thank you Elly for the old thread and Moomins for the shiny new one. My rainbow will be born on this thread

Do you know fan I've not asked what would happen if I went spontaneously in to labour I would ring them in a blind panic I'm sure!! I've no experience as I was induced with K!

[fanjodisfunction]

wtw watch out for period type cramps, well that's how my labour started. I guess if you worried go to the hospital. But I'm sure she is just resting on your cervix.

[Ellypoo]

wtw I was booked in for an elcs and I asked what would happen if I went into labour before and they told me they would do an emcs unless the labour was too far advanced.

[KleinePoppet]

Oooh new thread! Thank you moomin - and hello, nice to meet you Also huge congrats on 12 week scan going well! Sounds like your hospital are on the ball.

elly hope you are feeling a little better today...

wtw any update? Hope the little miss stays put until her official marching orders are given.

Thanks all for offering a listening ear re PILs. I am reluctant to go into their private business here. Suffice to say, you would think they would understand, and yet, despite our frequent attempts to explain, they really, really don't. It's not as completely awful as it could be, but quite hurtful.
(After I'd posted yesterday, already quite wound up about some things that had been said and done, a card arrived from them: "Try again as soon as possible! It will all be fine!"
...
The irony being that, if we do ever fall pregnant again, not only will they think that everything is 'fine', but also that it was because of their advice )

[Bluetinkerbell]

Just quickly marking my spot!
Organising and leading holiday club this week, very tired!

[fanjodisfunction]

poppet my FIL said something quite hurtful in the first couple of months, he said we needed to get a move on and give him a grandchild, not said exactly like that but near enough. I thought how insensitive, also because they have suffered a stillbirth and a late miscarraige themselves. But since then they have not said anything I think DH has told them to shut their mouths about it.
My Nan (who has also suffered a stillbirth) has also said we need to forget about Fi and move on.
Some people are insensitive, they dont know what to say. And when they do its not helpful at all.
Now when people say insensitive stuff to me I just nod, and in my brain I am giving them the finger! and then come on here and rant about it

[fanjodisfunction]

wtw hows the fanjo today but youve never been asked that before? I mean hows the pain today is it better?

[Whatevertheweather]

that is a first fan all the pressure feelings have gone today so I'm guessing it must have been her head and she's moved again!

[Mechavivzilla]

Another first, I am glad to hear about your fanjo, WTW! I have never said that before

[KleinePoppet]

Hehe, just a thought, but if enough of us reply, then wtw's fanjo will make it into 'most active'

fan oh poor you. Sounds v similar (so, poor me too, then). It's the lack of recognition of the importance of their grandchild that is most hurtful, isn't it? I feel it as a real insult to E. Ah well. They really aren't worth the stress right now, so am trying not to think about it too much.

[AngelGeorgie]

Whatever glad your little lady is calming down now ... (smile) xxx
Hi all; hope everyone is Ok? Xxx
Had a brill weekend in Paris & Euro-Disney.. Phebs an absolute star particularly as our return flight was delayed by 9 hours & we didn t land to 4 am!!!! All totally knackered as a result & found returning to work & nursery a nightmare today!!! I ve put in a request for an AL day on Thursday so fingers crossed & me & Phebs can rest up...
She loved some of the rides at the park & was good as gold considering she was up at 3 am on Friday & not getting to bed to 11/ midnight...
A total star.... ( wink)
Right , quick post as off to bed to catch up on my sleep ... Love to all xxxx

[Moominsarescary]

Some people can be so insensitive, it must be so upsetting especially when coming from close relations. Mine act as if Jacob never existed, I find it very painful and it makes me feel as if I can't mention him around them.

wtw glad your fanjo is feeling better.

angel glad you had a good holiday

Hello kleine yes the consultant is being really good, hopefully with the stitch and if I take part in the trial I'll get extra appointments.

[blizy]

Moomins- thanks for the new thread.

Just popping on to mark my place, will catch up later. Hope you are all ok?

[Whatevertheweather]

Omg this time next week I will (hopefully) be in the operating theatre - eeeek!

Glad you had a fab time at Disney angel 9 hr delay though rubbish! Hope you're not too tired today x

[Moominsarescary]

Me too wtw !

[Mechavivzilla]

Angel glad you all enjoyed Euro-disney. I have always wanted to go! Hopefully something to do with my rainbow.

WTW exciting! Will have utterly everything crossed :)

I am sometimes amazed at the stuff that comes out of the mouths of people who really should know better! My favourite so far has been "Oh well, at least you know you can get pregnant!" Yeah, that helps a lot. Thanks. Grrrrr. It is brilliant to have a safe space here where we can come and rant!

The news about poor Poppy Barlow has really hit me hard. Her due date was around about Dexter's so I guess it just feels really close to home. I have been getting better with pregnant ladies and babies, but this has just thrown me utterly. It's so bizarre how our brains work.

I did have a phone call from the doctors yesterday though, and they have made me an appointment with my consultant to talk about Dexter's birth. I am desperate for answers. I just want to know if there is anything I can do next time round to help.

Thinking about us all.

[KleinePoppet]

Just wanted to say hi to mecha... you're having a really hard time of it right now...
Glad your consultant appt is being arranged. Just a thought in case it's relevant to you - we put together all our questions from our research etc, and emailed them to our consultants in advance. This worked really well for the neonatal appt; and even better, we hope, for the obstetric one - she got back to us yesterday, asking to postpone this week's appt so that she has time to compile a report for us, in an attempt to answer all our questions. We were very pleased.
They didn't suggest that we email them or anything - we just did it - found out their email addresses online. If you have specific questions or concerns, perhaps you could consider something similar, in order to get a more complete set of answers? Might not be relevant but just wanted to suggest it, in case it is. xxx

[AngelGeorgie]

Whatever & Moomins 7 little days ... Wowee
Yes , had fab break , ta... Managed to get AL tomorrow yeh.. So me & Phebs will rest up...
Very sad about Poppy I m going to donate on just giving ( they re collecting for SANDS) .
Mech glad you ve a drs appt sorted .. I wanted to ask & know everything about my Georgie & what happened to her...
Love to all xxxx

[Whatevertheweather]

Glad you've got an appt mecha I think it definitely does help to talk it through. Kleine's advise is good re a list of questions/things to ask. I also followed up with an email afterwards once we'd had time to digest what we were told at the post mortem meeting.

Erin's new headstone arrived at the stonemasons today so we've just been up to look at it. Thankfully it's the right size this time and beautifully done. The colour of the letters on her name isn't quite what I wanted - more bright pink than baby pink but we're going to have to go with it so its being erected at her grave on Monday in time for us to make it look perfect for her 1st birthday on the 25th.

[fanjodisfunction]

wtw Im glad its being done before Erins first birthday. If there is anything I can do with regards to the cemetery please feel free to ask, I know what it means to have the first birthday perfect.

angel well jealous youve got tomorrow off. Just saw that just giving page thought at first He had set it up but its Fans that have. Thats nice.

mecha I wanted to know every thing about Fi as well, we put her post mortem results in her memory box. The only thing they found wrong was the knot in her cord and that she had short fingers! That still makes my DH laugh, he says thats what she got from me, Fi looked like DH, and she got my short fingers.

[Bluetinkerbell]

wtw only a week left! how that has flown by! :)
Glad that Erin's headstone has been delivered! The pink might fade a bit over time, so don't worry about it!

angel glad you loved Disneyland! Last time I went I was about 10 years ago! E would love to go but we're going to wait till DD3 is a bit bigger

mecha we had a really good appointment with our consultant to discuss Sterre's post mortem. He was very friendly and very helpful and told us if we'd still have questions afterwards we were always allowed to contact him.

[blizy]

Fan- I'm at fi's short fingers. She would have had trouble picking her nose! Zoe looks like Dh but had my awful bubble chin.

Wtw- I'm glad you can get Erin's garden perfect for her birthday. Wow to one week left!

Angel- I loved Disney when Dh and I went. I was such a big kid there. Glad you all had a fab break, but at the delay.

Kleine- hope you are ok?

Mecha- sorry you are having family problems.

Moomins- not long until your stitch, hope it goes well.

Big waves to everyone else, hope you are all ok. X