Stacey Ball in the right or in the wrong to snatch her baby away

[SeaNanners]

So was reading this article in the daily mail about an 18yr old mother Stacey ball who stole her baby away from SS during a supervised visit on one hand she stood up to them and took her baby back who im sure she loves more than anything but on the other hand she is 18 is doesn't have a job and she is unable to care for the child with no partner to care for either of them either (abusive relationship) so its a half and half situation really was she right or wrong in what she did i say right for standing up for them and wrong because they have her babies best interests at heart and she has landed her self in even more s**t for doing this ?? www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582488/Four-arrested-police-missing-toddler-Lola-safe-vanished-mother-visited-foster-care.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582026/She-mother-screaming-help-Family-defend-teenager-Stacey-Ball-snatched-toddler-daughter-foster-family-vanished.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2581683/Police-hunt-teenage-mother-abducted-toddler-daughter-one-foster-parents-vanished.html

[SeaNanners]

[onepieceoflollipop]

No idea, and neither does anyone else unless they are family telling the truth, or social workers/professionals involved in her case.

the fact she is 18 and doesn't have a job, this information on its own doesn't mean she can't care adequately for her child, despite what the Daily Mail may say.

[SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed]

And the fact she doesn't have a partner 'to care for either of them' isn't relevant.

[SeaNanners]

i know single parents can raise there children with childcare and a job what it seems is she has neither and comes from a violent relationship and i wondered what SS and dailymail aren't telling us there a sneaky bunch apparently

[SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed]

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

What?

Why should SS tell the country confidential information about this case?

Do you really think the DM and SS are in this together? Do you know anything about the DM?

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

What makes you think a parent can't look after a child without outside child are and a job?

Are you on glue?

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

childcare

[onetiredmummy]

There is too much missing info to make an intelligent decision, but sad for all concerned.

[SeaNanners]

Um because having a child deliberatly for benefit or raising a child on benefit is difficult and wrong i waited years to have a baby me and OH were this girls age when we got together were both vets now with our pwn practice it was hard but worth it

[AnyFucker]

You are a veterinary surgeon ? Yep, and I am Margaret Thatcher.

[SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed]

AnyFucker

[SeaNanners]

Yes i am im on 6 months leave with LO atm though :) and its hard even with proper income let alone without

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

So.....in your opinion she is right for standing up to them but they are right to take her child away due to her lifestyle?

You're not making any sense.

Thank god you work with animals (if you say so) and not people.

[SeaNanners]

Yes she has shown love for her child which as a mother i admire but the SS has said she is unfit because she is from a violent relationship and they are right too for sending the baby to a home with 2 parent and income

[Onesleeptillwembley]

What Margaret Thatcher said upthread.

[Onesleeptillwembley]

And either you're just thick or thick and think we are.

[Oswin]

Fucking hell. So being a two parent working family automatically makes for better parents than a lone, unemployed parent? Hahaha.

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

Are you saying you are better than a single parent on benefits because you have a partner and two incomes?

[SeaNanners]

Well yes it does benefits are few and little amounts there are children that starve because there parents are unable to work or unwilling last i checked child benefit is £20 and jobseekers/income support £110 people cannot survive on that amount

[OneStepCloser]

We don't know the details of the situation, however, I'm not liking your slant on needing two parents and income to be a loving good parent. It doesn't work like that.

Whatever has happened, I feel very sorry for the her and her daughter.

[SeaNanners]

No im not saying im better im saying having an income is better than having nothing and staying at home with a child and having nothing is not in a babies best intrests but at the same time it isnt in the mothers best intrests to take her baby away when she has shown such distress at it being done

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

Parents unable to work? Due to illness or losing their jobs?

So they should have their children removed?

Let's hope you're never in the situation your partners leaves you and you lose both incomes. SS should remove your child then.

Do you claim child benefit?

[HotDogHotDogHotDiggityDog]

No, it's in the child's best interests.

It has nothing to do with having one/two parents or benefits.

[Oswin]

Jesus. Me and my daughter survive just fine on benefits. We have a heathly diet. Nice but cheap clothes. Free days out. You have no idea what you are talking about.