To suggest pork pies dont keep for 4 days out the fridge.

[flossielimejuice]

Hi

My dh is going to a music festival camping at the weekend (4 days) with his mates.

He mentioned that he needed to buy 24 pork pies as they are having them for their lunch every day!!!

Well besides being horrified at the calorific intake surely pork pies wont keep out the fridge for 4 days. He says I am being picky and he is not asking me to eat them!

These men is an intelligent 45 year olds (not bits of kids)how can all 3 of them think this will not make them ill. Is it just me being unreasonable?

Also can anyone suggest meals that would keep without a fridge and need no cooking.

[NorbertDentressangle]

Put it this way.... they'll certainly be well acquainted with the joys of festival toilets by the end of the weekend if they do go for daily, non-refrigerated pork pies.

[olderandwider]

Could he freeze them and keep them in a cooler box with freezer packs? Frozen milk makes a good cooler block. Pies could last 48 hours that way. Read the Glastonbury Festival Goers tips on the official site. Not looked recently but two years ago there were all sorts of clever ideas for taking stuff frozen and then using it over the next 48 hours. My DCs lived on packet rice/noodles/pasta and pasta sauces (although one sauce bottle exploded when the tent became too hot in the sun )when they went festival-ing.
Or just buy food there?

[flossielimejuice]

Well I suspect they will buy a fair bit of food there. But said they want to take stuff for lunch and so it does not get too expensive.

They are not taking a stove - apprarently not allowed unless you have a special non gas one that they say is not worth the bother buying.

[TrillianAstra]

They're all adults, let them take what they like and they will learn what keeps and what doesn't...

(and be glad you're not there with them )

[flossielimejuice]

I suppose so - just thought I'd try and suggest some 'safer' alternatives.

[TrillianAstra]

Suggest, yes, freezing is good, but if they want to be ridiculous don't worry about it in the slightest. Send him off with a breezy 'do whatever you think best dear'.

[Cretaceous]

If it's not too hot, they might well keep for a couple of days. In fact, he could be an experiment for whether they keep for 1,2,3 or 4 days . We could run a book on it.

[sanielle]

In the heat? ewwwwwww

[flossielimejuice]

yes Cretaceous how many days till the ambulance is called. Should point out I am probably more concerned than your 'average' wife would be as he has crohns and any sort of upset stomach takes him ages to get over! Making the risk all the more ridiculous.

[Cretaceous]

Do you think he's not just winding you up??? Frankly, I don't think they'd even look very appetising after the first day. Can understand your concern if he has crohns, but I don't think they'd eat them when they'd gone off.

[TrillianAstra]

What heat is that?

[flossielimejuice]

No he was not winding me up! That is why I was so shocked. I dont think he had really thought it through - that was why he got so defensive and started with the- 'Well I am not asking you to eat them' comment.

Maybe he'll change his mind - he's going to the supermarket tonight for his 'supplies' so we'll see what he come back with.

[Saggyoldclothcatpuss]

Try telling him that if he does this there is a good chance he will shit himself transparent!

[gagamama]

Gosh, I bought some pork pies (horrible bloody things!) for a picnic on Saturday, a few hours later I still had one sitting in my bag, so in the absence of an available bin, I decided to eat it. It was NASTY. The lard was seeping out the pastry, the meat was a little greasy, gristly globule of pink, the whole thing was basically imploding in a mess of hydrogenated fat. Ick.

So YADNBU. After more than a few hours they will turn into nasty little greaseballs of no discernible taste. And so will the pork pies.

[flossielimejuice]

When I said 2 pork pies each every day - he said - well 'melton mowbarys' !! Oh well thats ok then.

[gagamama]

Also, just to add that the best bet for a non-refridgerated, no-cook meal is probably to take a loaf of bread and some sandwich fillings such as tinned tuna or something. And crisps.

Things can usually be kept cool if placed in the grass under the groundsheet of the tent as well.

[catinthehat2]

Listen to TRillianAstra. She is right.

[nelliesmum]

POT NOODLE...

[kreecherlivesupstairs]

Smash nom nom nom.

[stripeyknickersspottysocks]

cheese and onion pasties may be safer

[nelliesmum]

I was watching one of those "Life After People" pseudo-docs on the Discovery channel and they said certain cakes made with Tri-glycerides can last for 25 years, so check out the Mr Kipling ingredients lists.

Also you can eat 3,000 year old butter if its been buried in a bog.

[colditz]

As someone who LIVES in pork pie land ....

they'll be fine. honestly.

there is so much salt and fat in a pork pie that they keep for ages - they were designed to keep for ages, that's why there's so much salt and fat in them.

plus the meat is encased in very fatty pastry, having been cooked that way, it's only the pastry that can get germs on it and pastry is not a very good breeding ground for germs.

[catinthehat2]

And this is what happened to the last man who tried the 3,000 year old bog butter trick

[hobbgoblin]

Okay, any ready to eat products (those that are not going to be heated again) must be kept ideallyy below 5 degrees centigrade. The legal requirement is a few degrees higher I believe! They can be stored at ambient temps up to 4 hours but ideally 2 hours max. If stored at 37 degrees then bacteria will multiply perfectly - doubling in number every 10 mins at this temp.

He can have raw products unrefrigerated so long as they are heated subsequently for at least 2 mins at 70 degrees or above. However, they might be minging if kept warm even if they won't kill or posion him.

Dried goods are perfect for storage at any temp but anything high protein, moist and warm will harbour many food poisioning nasties.

So, you need to suggest non-protein, dried stuff like raisins! ho ho

[TrillianAstra]

Can I quote you on that catinthehat? I don't think anyone's ever said it before!