To think Park View Academy, must be doing something right ( looking at their statistics)

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smokepole Mon 09-Jun-14 16:01:43

I have just looked at the Park View Academy's statistics and have been amazed. I expected to see appalling statistics, yet the statistics are fantastic!

92.5% of pupils English as a second language 59.8% of pupils on FSM yet achieves 75% 5 A*-C Maths and English.

There might be a problem with some religious zealots there, but clearly the school is achieving fantastic results. The school is giving its pupils an education far beyond, what the raw statistics say it should be doing.

The problems should have been dealt with in an efficient and quiet way, it should not have come to the media attention. The school deserves to be looked on as beacon of excellence for its outstanding results.

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:03:20

i did a TP there YEARS ago before all the academisation, it was the most multi cultural place I had ever experienced

I know nothing about this school.

However, the schools that I do know of also boast good GCSE results, based on % of passes.

The problem is that the teens are streamed into sets early on and the lower sets are not entered for A-C, even if they are catching up and probably could pass. Many go on and within a year do achieve those results.

% of passes mean nothing.

My middle DD underachieved at senior school, but the school she transferred to, turned her around via the one day a week work experience she was sent on. She is still working there, has A level equivalent qualifications and it has set her on a career path.

They have done the same for many ASDAN pupils.

I would be interested in what % of pupils were not entered, why and what they went on to do.

A well rounded education isn't one just that produces good academic results.

If there were concerns about just one school then I think it would have been dealt with more quietly, but its not just about this school - its about a cluster of them. It's also about Ofsted and also its about the fundamental premise of Academies and free schools.

thebodylovesspring Mon 09-Jun-14 16:11:19

Well looking at it in the round what's the suggestion then that Ofsted lied? Or got it wrong? An agenda? Either way it's a good job I think to be fully investigated as long as it's fair to all sides.

Personally I would ban all faith schools( I teach in a c of e) and I would definatly stop academies but that's not going to happen.

The results are good though. Will be interesting to see what happens here.

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:18:29

the two reports for the Oldknow academy are alarmingly different

No christian assemblies, no Xmas event, no tombola at fete, a madrasa established at school, some trip to Saudi where Governors got to go too,,

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:19:55

i think the suggestion is that there was a cover up by the governors, in the oldknow one there is no criticism at all of the teaching, standards or happiness of kids,, just that Islam is being set up as the faith of a school that is not supposed to be faithy/conform to the Education acts ideas on assemblies

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:23:18

Most RS courses do two religions at GCSE 'However, from Year 9 onwards students focus almost entirely on Islam, with
very few opportunities to explore other religions and cultures.'

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:23:51

Students are invited to
develop moral understanding through the weekly themed Islamic assemblies. However, no
opportunities exist for non-Muslims to attend alternative assemblies.

Hulababy Mon 09-Jun-14 16:30:12

"The school deserves to be looked on as beacon of excellence for its outstanding results."

I disagree.

The school achieves a grade 4 in to very important areas in the OFSTED report. Those 2 inadequate gradings mean that the school is not keeping all its pupils and staff safe, and the leadership has major issues.

Academic results alone do not make an excellent school. School is about far more than just exam marks.

TroyMcClure Mon 09-Jun-14 16:31:40

yes but that is an improvement on previously when you could get outstanding and teaching be only satisfactory

Hulababy Mon 09-Jun-14 16:34:17

The new report:

www.oldknowacademy.co.uk/spice/fckimage/Ofsted%20Report%202014.pdf

A school where safeguarding issues are breached.
A school where children are not kept safe.
A school where teachers are too scared to speak out.
A school where discrimination is rife.

Hmm....not the comments to be linked with a centre of excellence is it?

ConferencePear Mon 09-Jun-14 18:02:56

" I would ban all faith schools "
So would I but this is not a faith school it is an ordinary school

AllsFair Mon 09-Jun-14 18:08:26

These statistics may mean very little, other than time, money and resources is being poured into skewing the statistics, which can be done in a number of ways.

TeacupDrama Mon 09-Jun-14 18:17:31

it has been mooted that because of advance notice of inspections that lessons in week of inspections are inclusive etc but then revert to form after inspections

soverylucky Mon 09-Jun-14 18:18:14

How many children were simply not entered for the exams?
How many GCSE's did the children get? Do they have more than 5 or were they coached heavily in English and Maths with one other subject worth 3 GCSE's or something like that?

Hulababy Mon 09-Jun-14 18:30:48

Sorry - realised the link I gave was OldKnow Academy, one of the schools (a junior school) linked to the new OFSTED ratings today.

kim147 Mon 09-Jun-14 18:31:01

There's more to life than results. How were the children treated? What were relationships like between staff, Governors and pupils? Was there an open and balanced curriculum available to all?
OFSTED inspected what they were told to do in their first reports. This time they opened their eyes.

Hulababy Mon 09-Jun-14 18:34:13

This is the Park View one: www.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article7239317.ece/binary/Park%20View%20School%20the%20Academy%20of%20Mathematics%20and%20Science%20Ofsted%20report

Many of the same points stand regarding staff scared to speak out, safeguarding not ideal, discrimination exists, etc.

LadyIsabellaWrotham Mon 09-Jun-14 18:49:04

Did anyone see the boys interviewed on the news today? One was saying (approvingly) "we're allowed to sit next to girls in class but we can't have boyfriends and girlfriends because that's against Islam". His mate said "Yeah, but it's not an Islamic school, it's an academy". I was v impressed.

KeinBock Mon 09-Jun-14 18:51:56

The Ofsted report on Park View paints a very disturbing picture.

Chippednailvarnish Mon 09-Jun-14 18:54:29

Education is far more than GCSE results.

Yabvvu

kim147 Mon 09-Jun-14 18:57:29

If it was a Muslim faith school - what would they be allowed to do and not allowed to do?

Catholic schools are allowed to employ only Catholic teachers and teach Catholic values. I hope they teach about other faiths and no faiths either.

ouryve Mon 09-Jun-14 19:04:59

In reality, Catholic schools do employ non-Catholics.

kim147 Mon 09-Jun-14 19:07:50

But they are allowed not to. They can discriminate and favour Catholics.

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