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AIBU, to ask for help in writing a "strongly worded letter' to the school?

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Fleurdebleurgh · 11/12/2013 16:06

Im not very good at being rational or calm when it comes to the treatment of my children, so im appealing to the MN jury for some help in writing a complaint to DC school.

Today, i went to collect DD (7) from school, after all the children had been 'released' to their parents by the teacher, DD was still nowhere to be seen.
The teacher and TA tell me they dont remember seeing DD and they begin to look for her. After about 5 mins they have found her, shes in the toilets and wont come out.

I go to the toilets and im greeted by a very tearful semi naked DD, and a pile of urine soaked clothes on the floor. Her coat, trousers, socks, shoes and knickers are cmpletely sodden and she is doing that sobbing kind of cry where your whole body shakes.
DD tells me she has been in the toilet since afternoon play time which finished ONE HOUR ago.
She had an accident and didnt want to leave the toilets in case her friends saw and took the mickey out of her.

I asked the teacher how she failed to notice DD has been missing for a whole hour and was told they dont do a registration after playtime and noone had noticed her absence.

MY problem with this is twofold. My child did not return from break an was unnaccounted for for one hour. My child was left in distress and embaressed for one hour with noone noticing.

The teacher said to DD that she was "very silly" and that she should have told someone so they could clean her up. This may be true but does not excuse the fact it went unnoticed.

I plan to meet with the head tomorrow after ive outlined my concerns in an email, could anyone advise as to what i should put in it?

(As a side issue, my 4yr old was allowed out to play twice today with no coat in freezing fog because noone could find it, but i found it left in the lunch hall when i went to collect him, with his name and class name printed on MASSIVE letters inside)

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aziraphale · 11/12/2013 16:15

I would be fuming. In fact, I am, on your dd's behalf. What if something had happened that she was unable to come back and report? Poor little thing.

AngelaDaviesHair · 11/12/2013 16:17

I would be very displeased at the teacher calling a deeply distressed little girl that she was 'silly', too. That did not need saying.

DaddyPigsMistress · 11/12/2013 16:20

I would be furious she was not noticed fir an hour.

I would be bat shit crazy about bring called dilly and made to feel so shit.

Poor dd hope she is ok

Captainbarnacles1101 · 11/12/2013 16:21

You are definately not being unreasonable. I feel furious for you! How dare that woman call your wee daughter silly when she herself didn't even notice her gone! Maybe they need to do a roll call after playtime! You were very restrained not to demand to see the head today!

DaddyPigsMistress · 11/12/2013 16:21

I would be furious she was not noticed for an hour.

I would be bat shit crazy about being called silly and made to feel so shit.

Poor dd hope she is ok

Seeline · 11/12/2013 16:22

Your poor DD! I am totally shocked that no-one noticed she was missing. TBH I would have thought one of her classmates might have said 'where's mini Fleur', but for the teacher not to notice Shock
I think what you have said in your OP would make a very good base for an email to the HT. You are rational and amazingly calm. I think I would have been alot more outraged with the teacher at school Blush
You are right there are two issues there - I would add the third of the teacher's attitude. Saying a child is silly for behaving in the way she did is ridiculous. I think most 7yo girls would have done the same thing as your DD. Even if it was silly, that does not excuse the teacher saying that it was! (presumably in front of your DD).

DaddyPigsMistress · 11/12/2013 16:23

Sorry my phone posted my preview as well as my edit

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HectorVector · 11/12/2013 16:23

YANBU. I am furious on your behalf, your poor DD. :(

craftynclothy · 11/12/2013 16:36

Shock Your poor dd. I think it's really worrying that nobody noticed she was missing for that length of time. What if she has fallen/slipped in the toilets and was hurt?

Fleurdebleurgh · 11/12/2013 16:36

When she was found my primary concern was getting her home, washed and warm so i didnt speak at length with her teacher at all.

I also didnt want her to see me angry incase she thought it was her fault or directed at her.

The teacher said "Oh its very strange her learning partner didnt notofy me that she as missing" . It isnt the job of a 6 yr old to let you know one of your class is missing Hmm

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craftynclothy · 11/12/2013 16:36

had not has

Asheth · 11/12/2013 16:39

Yanbu. This is shocking. What your DD went through is bad enough, but if a child slipped and knocked themselves unconscious the teacher is saying that they could easily lie there unnoticed for an hour or more, while needing medical attention.

MammaTJ · 11/12/2013 16:41

I saw the title and thought 'oh another parent who needs telling they are overreacting'!

I was wrong! Your poor DD! Do they have a TA in the class? I would assume do at that age! So, two adults failed to notice she was missing for an hour, then failed to notice her book bag was left (presumably she had her coat with her)! That is appalling!

ExcuseTypos · 11/12/2013 16:41

I work in a school and I can see how this can happen. The dc are allowed to go to the toilet without asking and I'm always worrying that someone hasn't come back.

I do feel for your dd and I would be fuming that the teacher called her silly. She should have been apologising to your dd.

Gileswithachainsaw · 11/12/2013 16:43

Yanbu. Your poor dd :(

purplebaubles · 11/12/2013 16:44

YANBU. I'd be fuming. Also, I work as a supply teacher. Different schools every day, different kids every day. I would definitely notice if a child hadn't come back from going to the toilet, or hadn't come back from afternoon break. You'd have to be pretty stupid when it's your regular class.

The teacher needs hauling over the coals for this (and obviously, normally, I'm on the side of 'give us a break!')

Fleurdebleurgh · 11/12/2013 16:46

There is one teacher and two TA's in her class.

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Fleurdebleurgh · 11/12/2013 16:47

I realise its impractical to do a register every time they leave the class, but i would expect a headcount at the very least. It takes seconds.

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hobnobsaremyfavourite · 11/12/2013 16:48

That is dreadful op YANBU.

mistermakersgloopyglue · 11/12/2013 16:49

Oh god I am a teacher, and while I would love to think that I would notice a child missing for a length of time without doing a register, with some of the crazy stuff we have been doing in school I could see how it could happen Blush

Also, did she call your DD a 'silly girl' in a chastising way, or more in an affectionate 'you silly sausage, of course no one would have minded coming and cleaning you up' sort of way?

Its irrelevant really though - YANBU at all to be fuming and you should definitely write an email to the headteacher. FWIW I am sure that the teacher feels like total shit about the whole thing. But yes, the head needs to know and you are right to take it further.

SecretRed · 11/12/2013 16:49

I wouldn't email. I would go in and go ballistic at the head tomorrow. Don't take any excuses from them. I feel so upset for your daughter. Sad

Seeline · 11/12/2013 16:49

three adults failed to spot an empty desk for an hour Shock That is a major issue in its own right!

DoesntLeftoverTurkeySoupDragOn · 11/12/2013 16:51

MY problem with this is twofold. My child did not return from break an was unnaccounted for for one hour. My child was left in distress and embaressed for one hour with noone noticing.

I think there's only one issue here but it is a big one! Not noticing that a child is missing is appalling.

OBitchery · 11/12/2013 16:51

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TwoLeftSocks · 11/12/2013 16:51

Oh your poor DD!

It sounds like the teacher is completely displacing her responsibilities onto both your DD and her learning partner. Utterly unacceptable.

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