"It should punch you round the face, with a little kiss after", oh you reckon, Jamie Oliver?

(224 Posts)
Katiekitty Thu 29-Nov-12 18:39:16

"It should punch you round the face, with a little kiss after"

Jamie Oliver's BBQ sauce recipe.

Fuck off Jamie.

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 19:53:20

Katiekitty

The phrase he used came from the word Punchy. Having an immediate impact; forceful. For example chilli would be described as 'punchy'.

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 19:55:26

...Followed by a sweet flavour 'kissing me on the lips'
It's imagery, an expression.

TwoStrongArms Thu 29-Nov-12 19:57:42

I can see why this phrase would send chills down the spine of a DV survivor.

He is an twattish idiot anyway. That caravan pub thing he had in his last series, called 'The Cock In Cider' gives a general idea of what he thinks is funny, appropriate etc.

Katiekitty Thu 29-Nov-12 19:58:19

Yes, I know how it can be justified kittyfane why use terms loaded with DV meaning though?

He didn't say 'punchy' he could have, but didn't.

Why did he speicify a 'punch to the face' with 'a little kiss after'? Why be so exacting with this iamgery?

MmeLindor Thu 29-Nov-12 19:58:54

Kittyfane
punchy as in 'having immediate impact' would have been fine. Not when you team it with 'in your face'.

He is more or less condoning dv which aint onshock

Fakebook Thu 29-Nov-12 20:05:31

When I first read it, it sounded like a boxing match to me followed by a cheeky kiss by the puncher to "kiss away" the pain.

I didn't think of DV, because that's not how he intended it to sound like.

The BBQ sauce Flavour must skip around the mouth like a boxer in a ring being punched. Then as the flavour intensifies the puncher gives a kiss to ease the pain.

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 20:08:11

Ok, he could have phrased it better, he got carried away with words but he was talking about food. Food is neither male or capable of literally punching a person and then kissing them afterwards so I am not offended.

BTW, before anyone starts saying that I don't know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of hit and kiss, you are wrong. I just choose not to project my crap experiences onto TV personalities who are obviously not talking about DV.

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 20:11:05

"A person experiences a shock which feels like a punch in the face, their DP kisses it better"

RachelWalsh Thu 29-Nov-12 20:13:18

He talked about "pimping" a salad the other day which is another stupid phrase I find distasteful.

He's a bit of a nob.

RachelWalsh Thu 29-Nov-12 20:14:04

And they shouldn't have been allowed to ruin buffalo stance like that - remember neneh cherry's food programme? They would bring that back.

RachelWalsh Thu 29-Nov-12 20:14:17

They should bring that back.

peasabovesticks Thu 29-Nov-12 20:14:52

I agree with the poster who said it's 'imagary.' Sadly the imagery is that of domestic violence.

InNeedOfBrandy Thu 29-Nov-12 20:18:31

Actually OP as someone who had to hide in a refuge for months to escape a DV partner situation I find it quite offensive you would get offensive about this turn of phrase. This no way compares to a DV situation or promotes it.

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 20:20:10

Inneedofbrandy Well said.

Katiekitty Thu 29-Nov-12 20:21:35

Sorry to upset you IneedofBrandy

As someone who has also experienced DV, it did conjure up connotations for me.

OpheliaPayneAgain Thu 29-Nov-12 20:23:24

""punch"" also means pungency - he's a cook/chef - pungency will assault your senses.

It's not his fault that he has a specific culinary command of English and is trying to teach fuckwitted morons how to cook, and dare I say, read/understand there is more than one meaning to every adjective used.

peasabovesticks Thu 29-Nov-12 20:24:55

InNeedOfBrandy
It does have connations for other victims though...

KittyFane1 Thu 29-Nov-12 20:26:01

It's not his fault that he has a specific culinary command of English and is trying to teach fuckwitted morons how to cook, and dare I say, read/understand there is more than one meaning to every adjective used.

Agree

InNeedOfBrandy Thu 29-Nov-12 20:27:36

I am not upset, I find it slightly petty and professionally offended to be offended at his turn of phrase.

I got exactly what he meant, he meant it was a strong wow type of flavour followed by something sweet and nice, I'm sorry you didn't see that. Maybe (and I mean this in the nicest way) because of what you went through you noticed and got offended when it wasn't really anything to get upset over.

Fakebook Thu 29-Nov-12 20:28:19

I find it amusing how often one persons interpretation of something leads to others agreeing without thinking and start making vows to boycott and slander someone for something they said that was taken out of context.

<baaah baaah>

Katiekitty Thu 29-Nov-12 20:29:25

Who's mentioning boycotts here? fakebook?

Isn't it exhausting to be offended all the time? To look for hidden meanings that offend you? Or someone else?

Oh and Greg Wallace isn't a chef, that's why he doesn't know about cheffy things. He's a green grocer. And a TV personality, with very little personality.

Honestly, give it a rest. Not everything is said to push women to the bottom.

Oh wait, I said push women...

Methe Thu 29-Nov-12 20:30:47

This series has been unwatchable due to piss poor sound editing. I'm surprised you could hear what he's staying!

Katiekitty Thu 29-Nov-12 20:31:33

Yanktee, nope, I'm not offended all the time.

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