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AIBU?

to l like Ratamouse?

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lospollos · 14/02/2011 14:13

I think its adorable and sweet,

was watching the wright stuff today and people from west indies background, had no objection to it. and lest we forget its a mouse! not a person

back in the day El Nombre was far more gimmicky but no one had an issue with that, I think its actually the best thing on ther atm, that is all :)

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Itsjustafleshwound · 14/02/2011 14:16

Someone has been trawling the parenting websites again ...

I can't see the argument - my kids enjoy it, but if it causes offence then it should go ...

lospolloshermanos · 14/02/2011 14:42

I saw on the Wright Stuff actually but there has been a bit of ferore,

what I noticed is its always white people who are more offended than the ethnic minority or so it appears

GMajor7 · 14/02/2011 14:51

I think it's cool, although I'd be concerned about it encouraging young children to say 'me' instead of 'I'.

me thinks that's great

fluffy91 · 14/02/2011 15:11

LOVE Rastamouse!
Genius programme with fantastic morals.

I think anyone who thinks its racist is a bit loony imo.

You'll find offence in anything if you search deeply enough for it.

cat64 · 14/02/2011 15:20

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lospolloshermanos · 14/02/2011 15:28

I think the animation is gorgeous.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 15:30

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ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 15:30

EG I love the lady who reads stories on Tikabilla with a WEst Indies accent....

ShinyMoonInAPurpleSky · 14/02/2011 15:32

El Nombre reminds me of my childhood sooo much...

lospolloshermanos · 14/02/2011 15:38

useless dialect?

I'm not sure the thousands who speak patoi's would agree with you

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Tical · 14/02/2011 15:47

Love it. DH is Jamaican and no offence taken in our house. Kids love it, as now it's cool among all their friends to say 'Wha'ppen?' and 'Wha'gwan?'

Tical · 14/02/2011 15:49

PosieParker, you sound like a really intelligent and thoughtful person

Tical · 14/02/2011 15:50

p.p.s there is no such thing as a 'West Indian' accent

Hardandsleazy · 14/02/2011 15:55

Very popular here- I like it and more importantly so does dd.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 16:00

What's the issue? The dialect isn't of any use to 95% of the population, I don't see the point in confusing developing language with a dialect that in some instances is opposed to 'correct' English.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 16:01

And there is a WEst Indian accent, people from the West Indies have it. What a stupid thing to say.

bupcakesandcunting · 14/02/2011 16:04

I'm surprised at you, Posie. Are we only supposed to expose our children to the Queen's English? What about regional British dialects that are only "useful" to that region?

Tical · 14/02/2011 16:04

If you can't see what is wrong with your first statement, Posie, I can't be arsed to explain it to you.

We hear many and varied national and regional accents and all sorts of British local dialects on television. Hearing accents other than the Queen's English on a short television programme is hardly jeopardising future generations' ability to speak proper English .

As an aside, speaking as the mother of mixed race children, it is funny/sad that even a bloody mouse is jumped upon in our household as a positive role model for our kids. Oh, and Sid is the other one, I suppose .

Tical · 14/02/2011 16:06

Posie Parker, the West Indies is not a country. Jamaica, Trinidad, St Lucia, Barbados - they all have very different accents, as different as cockney to broad Yorkshire. And they are just the English speaking islands of the West Indies.

Stupid? Better than ignorant..

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 16:08

Hang on a minute...I don't want my dcs saying me thinks, me want etc. Accents are fine, dialects are not. It's pretty damn simple. Role models and the like is a much wider issue and one that needs to be taken seriously, but I'm not happy with a kids TV program in a dialect, I couldn't give a shit where that dialect is from....Jamaica, Cornwall or Azerbaijan.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 16:10

Tical....I'm sure you must be being obtuse. English accent, German accent, etc etc they are each made up of many many accents, but still definable as 'English', 'German' etc. Have a look at acting agents they even have people that specialise in West Indian accents.

bupcakesandcunting · 14/02/2011 16:11

So you reckon if they're taught to speak correctly at home and school, then by watching a five-minute programme, everything they've had drummed into them will be forgotten?

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Tical · 14/02/2011 16:12

Wow, your grasp of linguistics and the development of language is amazing@Posie

Do you ban them from having friends who don't speak like 1950s BBC presenters, then?

Funnily enough, the fact that my children are being raised in a household with a Jamaican parent who speaks patois hasn't hindered their language development in the slightest, so I doubt that watching a spot of Rastamouse will damage your precious angels for life.

You really are startlingly ignorant. That may be a more of a problem for your children than learning to speak proper English.

Tical · 14/02/2011 16:14

Obtuse? Oh sorry, you mean because I am doubting your expertise in all things 'West Indian'? How silly of me

Yes, because there are so very many well rounded, non -stereotypical roles for 'West Indians' on the British stage and screen.

Itsjustafleshwound · 14/02/2011 16:15

Best switch off Shaun the Sheep then

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