when was the last time two female politicians..

[Longlost10]

brought international politics and media to a standstill with a punch up leading to a serious brain injury?

[0phelia]

Females don't become politicians because they are too busy keeping the human species alive.

[LineyReborn]

Apparently he's all right now but I take your point.

Mind you, Elizabeth I did have Mary executed. Took her a while mind, and her hand was forced.

[scallopsrgreat]

I just don't think men are suited to political life. Too emotional; too aggressive. They clearly can't cope. It's too demanding for them.

[ageingrunner]

Ha! Good point scallops

[LineyReborn]

Men have so much to juggle as MEPs. Worried about home, being far away from home, thinking about how will the packed lunches get made and the school uniforms laundered, does my shirt match my jacket?

[GunnyHighway]

Interesting thread, is the suggestion that 2 women would never fight? Or, as may be the case here one women would never assault another?

[HermioneWeasley]

Female violence is incredibly rare - not unheard of , but rare

[Longlost10]

Two female political leaders, in a democratic parliament. ALLIES? think the chances are less than 1% the chances that it would happen with men

[AllPowerfulLizardPerson]

"brought international politics and media to a standstill with a punch up leading to a serious brain injury?"

Politics and media weren't 'brought to a standstill', if you are talking about events of today.

He does not appear to have had a sub-arachnoid haemorrhage (the type of delayed-effect potentially lethal brain injury)

He keeled over some 2 hours after whatever the fracas was, and has one-sided symptoms. Those are symptoms of a stroke/TIA.

[SexTrainGlue]

Most male politicians go through their entire careers without punch ups.


There is a considerably larger number of male politicians, so I would expect an incident that is exceptionally rare amongst them to be vanishingly rare amongst females.

Apologies to any stats bods that I have just stated the bleeding obvious.

[Longlost10]

Politics and media weren't 'brought to a standstill', they certainly were from where I've been sitting, ( at home with sick child asleep) there has been statements and reports flying around all day, it has eclipsed everything else.

He didn't have just one sided symptoms, and it wasn't 2 hours later, but anyway, that really doesn't matter.

Am enjoying the spectacle of UKIP imploding as everyone is shouting SM and sound bite abuse at everyone else.

[Longlost10]

I would like to know exactly why Diane James resigned now, as well

[LineyReborn]

She said she didn't have enough support.

[Longlost10]

yes, there was vague reference to intimidation (and spitting)

[NNChangeAgain]

Why don't two women ever have 'altercations'? I've never seen that word used to describe women's conduct. It's far more likely to be minimised as a "cat fight"

Oh, and I read somewhere that Diane James had made a note under her signature on the official documents returned to the Electoral Commission in which formally accepted the leadership the phrase "under duress" or similar in Latin.

The papers had been returned to the UKIP Executive by the Electoral Commission with a query about their content. It may be a conspiracy theory, but then again.....

[Lottapianos]

'I just don't think men are suited to political life. Too emotional; too aggressive. They clearly can't cope. It's too demanding for them.'

Love it

[QueenLaBeefah]

It is their hormones that make them just so irrational.

Testieheria is a medical condition that makes men entirely unsuitable to making difficult decisions.

[OlennasWimple]

I think there must be a full moon or something, affecting the men

[shinynewusername]

He does not appear to have had a sub-arachnoid haemorrhage (the type of delayed-effect potentially lethal brain injury).He keeled over some 2 hours after whatever the fracas was, and has one-sided symptoms. Those are symptoms of a stroke/TIA.

No, an extradural haemorrhage is the classic "walk & die" head injury. You occasionally get SAHs after injury but they occur straightaway.

Any brain injury can cause one-sided symptoms. If you have just had a bash on the head and develop symptoms, they are likely to be due to the head injury.

[IBelieveTheEarthIsFlat]

to be fair, I think it's more indicative of UKIP men

[thedancingbear]

Whilst recognising that men are often more violent than women, I think it's wrongheaded to besmirch male politicians as a class based on the actions of two fascist dickheads. Some male politicians have made moderately useful contributions to society.

[Longlost10]

You are right dancing bear. I was so deeply shocked yesterday, but I guess that is partly because this behaviour is so unheard of

[scallopsrgreat]

"I think it's wrongheaded to besmirch male politicians as a class based on the actions of two fascist dickheads." Really ?

[thedancingbear]

yes . They (UKIP generally and these two loons in particular) are clowns and arseholes. Almost all respectable male politicians think this. Which bit of this could you possibly disagree with?

[scallopsrgreat]

I don't disagree thedancingbear. I'm just find it ironic (and slightly amusing) that people are quick to defend men's right to be in political life when it may be suggested they aren't suited based on the behaviour of two politicians (although it isn't two is it - John Prescott, anyone, amongst others) and stereotypical characteristics of their sex.

I suspect women (and other marginalised groups) could understand that irony better though.