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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I know this isnt AIBU but... Misogyny in films

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ethelb · 07/08/2015 21:27

DH and I are looking for a Friday night film to watch with a few beers on Netflix. He chooses From Dawn To Dusk. I comment that it has Tarantino in it and he is a misogynistic wanker. DH comments it isnt directed by him.
It starts. Within 1 min there are two women being violently retrained and one man held at gun point. I comment on the fact that there is already violence against women taking place.
DH then goes into a huff and says that they dont get killed. I retort 'thats fine then. Its only for tittilation'
He then turned off the film is refusing to turn it back on and Has said i need to watch it on my own as he wont watch it with me as he cant stand it
Is it really not ok for me to comment? He normally giggles along with me about the predictability of the male gaze of Hollywood ...

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Angelto5 · 07/08/2015 21:38

Never thought of that film in that way considering Salma Hayek plays a bad ass vampire & at the end a female is still alive!

But tbh I don't read too much into films - I'm either entertained or not!

But QT's character is very sexist & quite scary in regards to women.

JAPAB · 07/08/2015 22:01

ethelb, its a good thing you bowed out before the Cheech Marin cameo if having women amongst the victims in a store robbery makes a film misogynistic.

ethelb · 07/08/2015 22:03

Maybe we need to have a feminism chat live thread to decide if this is mysogynistic? Popcorn and beers at the ready...

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Angelto5 · 07/08/2015 22:10

I'm up for that (not just too drool over George clooney)

BarbarianMum · 07/08/2015 22:38

I hate it when dh starts to pick apart something I'm watching whilst I'm actually trying to watch it. Does sound like you just wanted to piss on his chips tbh.

YonicScrewdriver · 07/08/2015 22:59

You need that onion article about taking a night off from feminism when watching TV!

ethelb · 07/08/2015 23:48

www.theonion.com/article/woman-takes-short-half-hour-break-from-being-femin-35026 this?

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YonicScrewdriver · 08/08/2015 08:35

Yep

achieve6 · 08/08/2015 20:38

if your question is, is your DH being unreasonable, I say yes.

generally I am sick of this. There are some good detective dramas around but the victims are always female. It has really put me off watching stuff. I'm not a fan of anything violent generally.

I haven't watched this type of thing for a while though.

Anniegetyourgun · 08/08/2015 20:51

I watched that film a few years ago. I didn't think it was noticeably misogynistic, but may have forgotten something as I have a memory like a... wossname. Tarantino's woman-molesting character was sick and not presented at all sympathetically (and also iirc he was the first to die horribly ). I'd just leave your DH to enjoy it tbh.

zippey · 09/08/2015 14:17

Tarantino is interesting. He probably thinks that he has done a lot for strong women to be on the big screen (think Kill Bill, Jackie Brown, Death Proof - all having strong lead female characters) bit I do think his sexual politics are skewed.

Having said that I think OP is taking things a bit too seriously.

Wishful80smontage · 09/08/2015 14:21

I had to stop watching wolf of Wall Street halfway through because it was frustrating me so much. I know so many people who really enjoyed it but I literally couldn't.

SaskiaRembrandtWasFramed · 09/08/2015 14:25

I like From Dusk Till Dawn, it's one of my favourite vampire films. Tarantino's character is definitely misogynistic, but I don't think the overall theme of the film is.

I can see your DH's point, I'd be really pissed of if someone started critiquing a film I was trying to watch too.

avocadotoast · 09/08/2015 14:32

Zippey oh god Death Proof is AWFUL. We watched it at DH's suggestion a few weeks back.

Not only is it misogynistic, it's also an incredibly shit film.

I did read some articles about it while we were watching it - this one sums it up for me: www.thefword.org.uk/2007/11/is_tarantino_re_1/

YonicScrewdriver · 09/08/2015 15:44

I feel your pain, wishful. I didn't walk out of the film as DH and I have only seen about 5 films together since the kids were born, but it was highly annoying.

andiewithanie · 09/08/2015 16:09

Men, even ones who consider themselves to be feminists, don't appreciate their blindness to or enjoyment of misogyny being pointed out to them.
I've pretty much had to give up watching most things. If it's not portraying violence toward women, it's comedy shows with all white male panels.

achieve6 · 09/08/2015 21:07

Wishful - I didn't go because that was the perception I picked up. My dad was surprised because he thought I'd automatically go to a film about Wall Street, but that aspect just looked hideous.

I also gave up on Mad Men because I found the pointlessness of the women annoying. That was after only a couple of episodes. I appreciate it might have changed as it went along. But I just couldn't relate.

MardyBra · 09/08/2015 22:07

What I loved about Mad Men was how it explored the ways in which women were subjugated in the 60s. Some characters managed to work their way up partially within the system, but the male characters ultimately had the power.

Mind you I haven't watched the second half of the last series yet, so maybe Peggy, Joan and Betty will ultimately win out. (Not holding breath. No spoilers pls).

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