International Day of the Man

(72 Posts)
BrushedStoat Tue 19-Nov-13 10:59:52

This gave me a chuckle.

UptoapointLordCopper Tue 19-Nov-13 11:07:04

"...despite being boss of all major world religions, most businesses and all our current wars, men are not happy ..."

grin

Biggedybiggedybongsoitis Tue 19-Nov-13 11:47:57

I for one welcome this. Now somebody be a love and make me a cup of tea, please.

Funny article, but there seems to be a worthy foundation behind the Day - 'The mission of the Fatherhood Foundation is to improve the well-being of children by increasing the proportion of children growing up with involved, responsible, committed and loving fathers. Manhood is the foundation for fatherhood. Good men make good fathers. Children and families are the benefactors. The Fatherhood Foundation has networked with other fatherhood and men's organisations to promote a positive view of masculinity and encourage family-friendly policies to support men.'

ShirakawaKaede Tue 19-Nov-13 17:39:26

Oh dear god, the comments: "Most of life's problems come from women just look at some of the little urchins they pop out"

"First up, oh ignorant one, sex trafficking, domestic abuse, and religious persecution are, funnily enough, NOT specific to women" Nobody said they were. Classic 'what about teh menz'.

Ugh.

BrushedStoat Tue 19-Nov-13 18:29:03

Glosswatch has done a good blog post on this. Must go back and check the Mirror comments grin

FloraFox Tue 19-Nov-13 19:45:47

Ugh, the comments!

JacqueslePeacock Tue 19-Nov-13 20:22:57

DON'T check the comments!

campane Tue 19-Nov-13 21:13:04

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campane Tue 19-Nov-13 21:15:44

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MissMiniTheMinx Tue 19-Nov-13 21:47:43

I do like the Mirror.

If we are running the world and we always have been, we have kept it so very quiet.

BrushedStoat Tue 19-Nov-13 22:16:10

I see what you mean about the comments! And I only had brief look. Erk.

BrushedStoat Tue 19-Nov-13 22:21:31

I am all for an organisation that wants to promote family-friendly opportunities for men. Not sure what masculinity has to do with that though. Yes yes to more men working flexible hours, covering sick days, taking part in the school run etc.

Biggedybiggedybongsoitis Wed 20-Nov-13 00:38:13

Isn't the charity about redefining what masculinity should be? Less impregnating and leaving, more being a good father was the aspect that stood out for me.

TheDoctrineOfWho Wed 20-Nov-13 00:48:53

Never google dragon butter and NEVER read the comments!

famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 18:36:08

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famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 18:38:56

I love it how practically every comment rips her little feminist diatribe rant about men to pieces.

ShirakawaKaede Wed 20-Nov-13 18:42:19

Hello again, campane.

BasilBabyEater Wed 20-Nov-13 18:45:11

Oh have the MRA's arrived already? Spreading hatred of women and rape myths?

Women live longer than men because they've got 2 X chromosomes and they're probably just tougher. Get over it.

Women aren't less likely to be attacked if you take sexual assaults out of the data (and why would you do that?) and who is doing all this attacking? It's not women is it, it's men.

Yeah, women in their 20's earn more and then sexism reasserts itself when they pay the motherhood penalties for the rest of their lives. Men pay no fatherhood penalty.
There are hardly any quotas or all-women shortlists. However, there have been many, many all men shortlists for centuries and men don't complain about them. Does anyone think Paul Flowers would have got the job at the Co-op bank if he'd been a woman? Of course he wouldn't it was positive discrimination in favour of white men.

HTH.

famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 19:01:17

If you include sexual assaults I bet men are still more likely, do you really think a man who is a victim of sexual assault is really going to report it when society is of the mindset (thanks to feminism) that men can only be perpetrators and women can only be victims?

Women live longer than men probably because their health issues get several times more funding and research than men's health issues. Also women who need help/support are given it, while men are told to just "man up". And like I said most victims of murder and serious assault are men.

Most boys are brought up with "don't hit girls/women" drilled into them from both parents. Just a pity it isn't just "don't hit people" instead.

famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 19:02:47

Perhaps everyone who isn't a feminist should just play them at their own little game.

Everytime a feminist mentions Page 3 or something we should all go "oh no what about the womenz"

BasilBabyEater Wed 20-Nov-13 20:33:07

What is the culture which tells men to "man up"?

It's patriarchy.

Who is doing all this attacking of men?

Men.

Sort out male violence and men will be safe from men.

Funny how so many MRA's are more prepared to live with the violence our culture condones and excuses, than to actually address it. They'd rather whine about it and blame women for it, than stop men doing it.

"I bet xxxxx in the face of your statistics". Guess what, I bet you're a whiney MRA dude. I'd lay bets that my bet is safer than your's.

BasilBabyEater Wed 20-Nov-13 20:34:16

Lots of girls are brought up not to hit anyone.

So ner, they are even more conditioned than men, not to defend themselves against male violence.

What about the wimminz?

famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 20:41:42

"What is the culture which tells men to "man up"?"

Feminism.

"Who is doing all this attacking of men?"

If someone is murdered then they are dead regardless who killed them, it makes no difference to the victim.

Sort out male violence and men will be safe from men.

Are you implying if a man is attacked by another man, it's somehow his fault for sharing the same gender as his attacker?

famileyfood Wed 20-Nov-13 20:43:18

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BasilBabyEater Wed 20-Nov-13 20:55:16

I am never quite sure if MRA's are disingenuous or plain thick.

I notice you refuse to engage with the fact that nearly all this violence men are being subjected to (to say nothing of women) is perpetrated by men.

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