Just eating Good Food: Paleo ish diets

[yumyumpoppycat]

Hi All

New thread for chat and recipes or links to good stuff for those doing whole 30/ Paleo/ Primal/ Clean and Lean or any other diets with a focus on eating good food mainly from scratch or as unprocessed as pos. This basically means fruit, veg, meat, fish eggs and nuts but lots of diets include different grey area foods such as quinoa, rice, dairy and legumes. It is just a case of experimenting to see what works.

Personally I am aiming to ditch the phrase 'fell off the wagon' this year and keep the 80:20 approach in mind, technically this adds up to 73 days or 10 and a half weeks a year of eating the other stuff or grey area foods if we choose too- more than enough to cover birthdays, holidays and lunch with Granny! Mindful eating at these times though.

Some links

whole30.com/
www.marksdailyapple.com/#axzz3TARuKwtI
nomnompaleo.com/
theclothesmakethegirl.com/
www.goingpaleouk.co.uk/
paleomg.com/
robbwolf.com/category/paleo-low-carb/

[Blondii]

Hellooooooo, thanks for this. I looked on your Whole30 and saw that I was a month late so very glad when I read you were considering this new thread. Im doing paleo/med carb. I don't believe in cutting out everything and think a 80/20 approach is good. Im such a foodie and love delicious real food.

[Tanukisan]

Signing in :)

[yumyumpoppycat]

Hi Both (waves) . I really need to get to bed. Just been watching a weepy teen movie . Been having a bit of a post whole 30 20% day but back to normal tomorrow and I am pretty happy that I resisted the midnight movie munchies, as part of my brain was thinking oh just go for it and eat some toast but I knew I didn't really want it.

[Brutalista]

I'm reading the Whole30 book at the moment and am considering my first w30 compliant online tesco shop so am meal-planning like a badass.


I did LCHF for a couple of years to good effect but having been ill with gallbladder issues for about 6 months (had the op to have it out a month ago) my diet has been fucking awful.

I need a reset. Not sure I could cut out dairy in the long term but the w30 approach sounds like what I need for now. Might go back to an unprocessed LCHF after the initial month.

please can I perch in here for a bit while I find my feet?

I love cheese, is this going to be hell?

[cathyandclaire]

Oooh hello, can I join? I've been low-carbing/boot camping for 2.5 years and it's been great, my weight's not too bad but I've found that if I eat any increased carbs (special dinners etc, I'm OK with dairy/veg/berries/dark choc) I rapidly gain fluid and get really puffy around my eyes, I look terrible. Obviously this usually happens at special events/holidays so it's not ideal :(

I've googled and it's apparently 'carb face' lol!

Anyway I'm thinking of trying clean and lean, so i'll be glowing and glorious by the summer . I'm assuming although it's low-isn carb I'll come out of ketosis so will gain weight (and eye bags) but hoping that will settle with time.

Not sure about giving up cheese for the first two weeks though...

[InanimateCarbonRod]

Carb face

I'm adding Diet Doctor to the list. I'm doing LCHF.
//www.dietdoctor.com

Has anyone tried Oopsie bread yet? Makes an amazing hamburger bun.

[Brutalista]

I'm sure you know it already but just in case not this is a great resource for LCHF and has a w30 compliant recipe section:

I Breathe I'm Hungry

[Brutalista]

My carb face is so bad at the moment that I actually resemble a doughnut

[yumyumpoppycat]

Hi All!

Never heard of carb face before , @ doughnut face

Those links look really useful Inanimate and Brutalista I need some inspiration.

So guess what the result was of my day off and having carby stuff - I finally shifted a lb ... weird, that has never happened before .... think it might have been because the different food had some tummy consequences iykwim.

I tried LFHC yest. Started off thinking I was fine but really crabby and scatty by the end of the day, was trying to work from home, kept forgetting to save then the internet would crash and poof lost my document (this happened more than once, I didn't learn ) Any tips for dairy free lfhc? I might indulge myself with a pot of cream as its hard to eat lots of fat?

[Tanukisan]

I hope you mean LCHF?!

[Tanukisan]

Have you read any of the boot camp threads? It can take a while to become fat-adapted and in the meantime...carb flu (I'm totally not fat-adapted at the moment, not with all the birthday parties, sob).

[yumyumpoppycat]

oooops yup LCHF!! Birthday parties have a habit of being close together just to make dieting difficult, 2 of my my dc are 2 weeks apart.

Thanks for lcbc suggestion. Funnily I have just started browsing the recipe thread. I feel pretty ok again today .... so far, managed to get work sorted.

DD and I are having black farm sausages for lunch after nursery yummmmm.... (plus broccoli prob... cooking dinner for a friend so keeping lunch simple) I guess I need to put something on the broccoli ... olive oil I guess.

[InanimateCarbonRod]

My fats mostly come from oils, nuts, avocados, olives and eggs which have the happy coincidence of having protein too. I don't drink milk at all and I eat cheese but just not a whole lot so don't worry about dairy free fat, there is lots of it.

Yumyumpoppycat try doing this to the broccoli instead. Start off softening the broccoli as much as you like. Then cut some bacon into thin slices or use pancetta cubes. Fry em until they are crispy. Take out and leave aside and leave the fat in the pan. Slice up a clove (or 6) of garlic and put it into the hot pan with a good pinch of chili flakes. Once the garlic is toasted but not too brown throw the broccoli in and start to mash it up with a wooden spoon. Let it sautee in the garlic and chili. Then throw the bacon in and mix. It's FUCKING AMAZING pardon le French. I know you want easy and this is really quick. You can even nuke the broccoli to save time.

I make literally tons of the stuff then stick it in an omelette for breakfast. Am drooling here just thinking about it. If you're a cheese eater grate some nice parmigiano or even cheddar over it while it's still hot. NOM.

[yumyumpoppycat]

Inanimate I am so cross I didn't see your message before I ate the broccoli that sounds delish, I will def give the broccoli a makeover next time!!

[ELR]

Hi all, just joining this thread too I'm still kinda trying to do w30 but still can't give up my tea with milk!
Had Mexican scrambled eggs this morning just sautéed chopped tomato, red chilli and half a grated courgette in butter then added a handful of chopped corriander and two beaten eggs, delish had it with a smoothie of coconut water, banana, strawberry and chia seed smoothie. Totally stuffed!

[ELR]

That was fresh tomatoes chopped up not a tin of chopped tomatoes.

[InanimateCarbonRod]

Aww thats a pity yumyum

ELRsounds delish. I love coconut water but I have to buy the small cartons otherwise I'll drink the big one all in one go!

[yumyumpoppycat]

Ooh that does sound yum ELR!

Ok so I was def not lchf dairy free paleo today! silly really as 1 -2 bs down this morning,
bf: natural yog, brazil nuts, frozen raspberries and coconut oil
Lunch chicken stew roasted veg and a couple of new potatoes
snack a latte
dinner a small portion of chippy cod, tblsp mushy peas and some mango!

[Brutalista]

I've done my shop. I can't do 'proper' grass-fed organic stuff due to skintness, but I have 7 days of food planned.

I really missed fruit on LCHF so concentrating on this being the trade-off to eliminating dairy.

Starting on Saturday!

How strict were you guys who did the proper actual whole 30 and do you have any good tips for sticking to it?

[Tanukisan]

My best tip on getting through the Whole30 is to put into practice these things from a great blog post on Mark's Daily Apple:
www.marksdailyapple.com/decision-fatigue/#axzz3TY7SvwUg

Basically - reduce the number of choices you make about diet by having a strict set of rules, reducing options, automating as far as possible (eg by having the same black coffee every morning instead of deciding between an egg latte or a BPC etc etc) and also outsourcing the decision.

It's a great set of tools and works well with a whole30 where you already have fairly strict rules and a narrow set of choices.

I pretty much stayed on the straight and narrow for the entire month, and my only cheat was a few dates as treats. There were times I thought about straying but the things above really helped.

[yumyumpoppycat]

Tankusian how are you doing diet wise at mo?

Brutalista I think you have already completed the main tip which is stocking up with lots of whole 30 food!

My tip based on fact I have been losing weight this week would be to get enough fat to make your meals filling. Olives, avocado, coconut oil, salmon, brazil nuts etc.

Dates really helped me but I think that may have been a reason for my weight stalling in the last week (didn't realise they were a cheat!) Enjoy the rest of the fruit though!

I had a few slips, nothing too major, but one planned cheat ow wine on a night out. My aim was to get my diet back on track and it has def helped with that and also I think the full 28 days without dairy were good for getting me out of some habits like eating lots of cheese as a snack and having less lattes (have had 2 this week though need to keep an eye on that!). Maybe pick a main aim from w30 and concentrate on that, I think this idea that a small unintentional slip makes the whole thing a failure is a bit extreme unless for allergies?

[Tanukisan]

I am eating Inanimate's broccoli recipe right now and I can attest that it is indeed delicious!

[yumyumpoppycat]

Oh snap I totally forgot I had that broccoli last night with salmon and some extra chili yum!

What's for dinner tonight everyone?

Sausages and veg here as cooking for a playdate! Thinking about letting rip with dairy and making cauliflower cheese. Would it work with soft cheese and cheddar instead of cream?

[Tanukisan]

I'm finding grains really easy to stay off, dairy's crept back in again and sugar is the most problematic thing. Eaten way to much fruit today, and I feel it (mostly because I feel hungry!).

[yumyumpoppycat]

Tankusian I am finding the same, I had some 350 cal worth cheese slices out and about with family today as we did a long walk rounded off with supermarket shop and everyone else had a double choc cookie before setting back home...wasn't remotely interested in the cookie! I ate some G&B v dark choc yest and found it hard to stop...sometimes it is better not to start eating things with me...I need to learn discipline.

At least I still prefer the black tea, need to keep that up but worried about my teeth

Yesterday I gave the cauliflower cheese a miss and roasted veg and grilled sausages. I had a frying pan with butter and tobasco, frozen garlic and leeks and then added the veg and sausages. Pretty nice...I am going to be doing this with every veg now I think (inanimate what have you started ). On the subject of which what do you guys do about garlic smells on fingers and in kitchen? I think the answer in the kitchen is prob quicker and more through with clean up isn't it!