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Puppy Food/The runs

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TeaOneSugar · 14/06/2013 17:20

My almost year old cocker is a really fussy eater, he'll be fine on a brand for a few days/weeks and then goes off it, I've tried the usual tricks putting it down for 10 mins and taking it back up if it's uneaten etc. and he will go all day without eating rather than eat something he doesn't want.

He will eat tinned fish pilchards or mackerel without fail, so I wondered if it was texture thing, so about a week ago I started mixing a little tinned puppy food into the complete dry food he'd refused and he's been eating it, however, he's had the runs.

Up until yesterday I'd have described him as loose, but last night I returned to find liquid poo all over his crate and him, same again this lunchtime.

He's fine in himself, has an appetite and is drinking, so I don't think it's anything other than the food isn't agreeing with him, he's just devoured some plain rice.

So, I was thinking of keeping him on rice and fish for a few days, but then what do I try next?

I can't keep buying expensive complete foods for him to eat initially and then refuse. He's 11 months so almost ready for adult food but not quite.

Advice and recommendations would be appreciated, except for giving him raw meat, I'm veggie and that's a step too far.

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Lozislovely · 14/06/2013 20:57

Feeling your pain Tea as I have exactly the same problem!

Bubba came from breeder on Wafcol so we continued him on that but he turned his nose up at it. Weaned onto JWB with a bit of wet food mixed in - was ok for a while but poos always a bit hit and miss. Then went off it and moved onto Burns. All pretty much ok for half the bag so long as there was some wet mixed in (was using JWB wet pouches). Then the occasional nose turn up reaction every now and then, chicken and rice when the poos went a bit sloppy.

Now he'll happily eat raw carrot, broccoli (stealing off the rabbits), a corner of toast, any treats - tripe sticks, filled bone, cheese, ham and always almost anything 'human' - which I turn to in desperation when he won't eat his food.

So I'm now in a dilemma of what to try next knowing that he'll probably like it for a while and then go off it!

I have no problem buying premium brands, it's just finding one he likes that's the problem!

He's also not keen on raw when I thought that might be worth a go.

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TeaOneSugar · 14/06/2013 21:54

Lozislovely It's a familiar story, mine came from his breeder on royal canine, loved it then wouldn't touch it, moved him onto JWB, same again loved it (except the lamb) now he won't touch it, bought Burns, never really liked it.

I don't know what to try next, he'll be on rice and fish for a few days I think, although he seems to have firmed up slightly.

He'll eat biscuits and treats all day, loves cheese, pasta and rice, won't touch toast, will eat cereal. I think in part he's just not a big eater.

I feel like I've failed, I've never had a fussy eater before, I've always managed to wait them out and they've eventually given in and eaten what I put down (like DD and DH :) ).

Might have a trip to PAH tomorrow for some advice.

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TataClaire · 15/06/2013 09:32

Assuming he is otherwise well, with fussy eaters you do have to be so persistent as they learn very very quickly that if they ignore a food you'll cave and provide something different.

It often takes a lot longer than one day to get the food withdrawal method to work so you do have to stick with it, they arent going to starve and as long as they are drinking, they should give in eventually.

Apart from Chappie tins (bizarre I know but I have known it to work for many with gut troubles), the one food I would definitely recommend is natural instinct. We buy it over the internet, its a raw food (they do different varieties e.g. puppy/adult etc and the staff are helpful) you keep it in the freezer and defrost one tub at a time - so not to everyones taste or budget - BUT it has turned our dogs poo into small dry bullets which is AMAZING to pick up (it's the little things that keep me happy Grin ), we also cook sliced carrots and smush them into it to slow his eating down as he loves it that much!

It sounds like all the dietary yo-yo-ing has not agreed with your pup, and some for whatever reason just don't get on with the same foods as the majority of other dogs, but you do have to really persist - dogs dont have the tastebuds we do, its ok for them to have the same foods again and again so you really have to choose a food and commit to it. They usually like fish etc as they are naturally attracted to foods that are stinky, another tip to encourage eating often used for sick animals is taking the chill off their meat so it's room temperature or warm as it brings out the smell.

Hope you manage to sort it out!

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TeaOneSugar · 15/06/2013 10:59

This morning I cooked him some rice, he's had a bowl this morning with half a small tin of pilchards, he'll have the same again later. I think we'll stick with that over the weekend.

The changes in brands has been over the last couple of months, so not that frequent and we've introduced foods gradually, with lots of fish/cheese etc. mixed in to get him to eat it though.

This is the first time he's really had any problems, I suspect that the puppy food is too rich, it's very heavy on jelly.

I'd like to stick with a mix of dry and wet food as I prefer to put food down and see it get eaten straight away, our previous dog had whatever complete dry food was on offer for most of her life and then tinned food with a wholemeal mixer for the last year or so when her appetite started to dwindle, she lived to be 15 and had a lovely coat and teeth right up to the end and no health problems really until the last year or so.

For some reason we've gone a bit pfb with this one, I suppose it might be because we haven't had a puppy for so long, also he's our first cocker and I've been told they can have particularly sensitive stomachs.

Someone at work recommended Chappie as the best of the tinned food, so a we might pop out later for a few tins and some mixer for when he's finished on the rice/fish diet.

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TeaOneSugar · 15/06/2013 11:05

I'll have a look at the natural instinct as well, firm poo sounds like a dream at the moment :)

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TeaOneSugar · 15/06/2013 15:46

we've been to PAH and bought some natures diet fish, rabbit, fruit/veg mix and a complete meal with protein/veg/carbs.

The plan is to keep him fish and rice today and then tomorrow I'm going to give him some of the rabbit with rice for one meal, and rice and fish for the other, then over the next week or so move him over. It's not cheap, but as long as he eats it I don't mind the complete food and tins of fish are also expensive and I'm sick of chucking it away - he will lick the fish off the complete and/or spit it out.

I might start another thread for advice on raw food, as I'm not sure about quantities.

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Lozislovely · 15/06/2013 16:27

I've gone and bought the same Grin

I popped into our local pet store and they recommended a dry dog food by 'Symply'. It's wheat free and meant to be good for sensitive stomachs. I'll start mixing with his Burns and we'll see how it goes.

Good luck Grin

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ClaimedByMe · 15/06/2013 16:41

The only thing my mums dog can eat is Chappie, he was poorly for about a year never done a solid poo, the vet checked his bloods, they tried every type of food available, including natures diet, the vet eventually told them to get Chappie and he changed over night.

My mum gave me the left over fish natures diet food for my stomach of iron staffy, I have never seen dog sickness and diarreah like it!

Now my mums dog is 3 and he has a mixture of chappie and barking heads and is pooing fine.

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ClaimedByMe · 15/06/2013 16:44

The first line should read the only thing my mums dog could eat

Raw diet didn't work for him either or just plain cooked chicken

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Lozislovely · 16/06/2013 18:39

Not counting my chickens just yet but we've had 2 perfect poos today Grin

First time in a long time so here's hoping!

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chalkiegirl · 16/06/2013 19:30

My 3 year old cocker had similar problems but is fine now on a mixture of Fish4Dogs complete and PaH own brand wet food, Wainwrights [ the one in a plastic tray]. Again, he got fed up with dry food and isn't a big drinker so I gave in and serve a mixture!

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