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It's much easier for DP to be a step dad than for me to be a step mum!!

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Kaluki · 19/03/2012 14:55

I was thinking this morning that my DP has it so easy.
I have 2 sons who live with me and DP full time. They really like DP, have a lot in common with him. They are polite to him, they all play on the Xbox together, watch rubbish films together and discuss nonsense star wars, doctor who together etc etc. They aren't angels but if they fight or kick off I deal with them, punish them if necessary and DP just looks on without getting involved. If they are ill I look after them without expecting him to do anything. He doesn't have to do anything fir them at all. He's a bystander. They love their dad and have a brilliant relationship with him so they aren't looking for a father figure, they treat DP as they would an uncle or other member of the family.
With his kids every other weekend and in the holidays I am expected to take on the role of Mum. I cook, wash their clothes, arrange days out, pretty much everything I do for my own but for them too. He does help a lot round the house and I'm not saying he's lazy at all, he's not, but we've fallen into these roles and it seems very one sided.
Does anyone else feel like this?

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Fooso · 19/03/2012 15:01

yes. I live with my ds and my 2 DSDs... My ds gets on fine with my partner - but he doesn't have to do anything. They just live together... Me? I've had to become a second mum to his DDs... I do think that alot of this is because boys are different - My DS doesn't seem to need the same attention as the girls. I used to worry that my son didn't have a good relationship with my partner - but he says "mum we are friends" where as I feel I have to be a lot more to the girls..

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Kaluki · 19/03/2012 16:32

You could have a point there! DSS doesn't need much looking after - as long as hes fed and watered and my boys entertain him. DSS is the one I have to mother and she is the youngest.
I feel like more is demanded of me than him sometimes. But that's probably because it comes naturally and i do these things instinctively.

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EightiesChick · 19/03/2012 16:37

How about the discipline for his kids? Does he deal with all that for them or do you?
What is the difference (if any) in your work commitments. Do you both work FT?
I do think this can slide into unfairness sometimes, not because your DP is necessarily trying to get a free ride, but because patterns get socially set and endorsed unthinkingly. Why are thinking of all the days out your job? If you weren't there presumably he would think up things for his kids to do? Likewise with the washing. What does he do around the house (you say he 'helps')?

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Kaluki · 19/03/2012 17:03

We have had issues with discipline - i.e. he wouldn't and expected me to. But we have got past that and he does discipline his kids more now.
We both work FT but he works further away so is out of the house longer. But when we have all the dc we are both usually off work so that isn't an issue.
He helps out by washing up, tidying, all the DIY and decorating etc. he's not lazy at all.
But he is very laid back and is happy to go along with whatever I organise but doesn't take the initiative himself when we have the dc.
I feel like it is easy for him to be a stepdad to my dc because I do everything for them anyway - all he has to do is enjoy their company, but with his own kids he sits back and lets me do it all for them too.

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theredhen · 20/03/2012 11:47

Oh yes, this is a very sore subject for me right now. I feel that my DS is very easy to have around and all that comes with him (issues with his Dad) are minute compared to the issues we have with my DP's children and his ex wife and yet DP is complaining and sniping about DS and I am fit to explode at the moment.

I feel another thread being started....

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Eliza22 · 21/03/2012 09:31

Oh God redhen...... Tell me about it! Start that thread, girl Grin

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catsmother · 21/03/2012 10:24

I've said this before, but on a more general basis, and leaving aside practicalities for a moment, I personally believe that stepmothers often have a far harder time of it - emotionally - than stepfathers anyway. There isn't quite the same mythology attached to men as there is to women ... e.g. the wicked stepmother and all that. As women, a large proportion of society still sees us as the nurturing sex, and we are therefore expected to fall far more easily into the role of caring for children who aren't our own than men are. This can mean we are immediately, and sometimes harshly, judged when we don't instantly fall in love with our stepchildren (even if we are kindness and understanding personified - sometimes in the most trying of circumstances). Should we dare express concerns, worries, or heaven forbid complaints I think we are jumped on (by some - both in real life and on boards like these) much sooner and much more than a man would be .... almost as if we're somehow being "unnatural" by failing to extend our motherly extincts, no matter what. By contrast, I think men tend to receive more understanding and sympathy ... I've heard, more than once, for example, a man being congratulated on being prepared to take on "another man's child" ... this is often seen as a hugely generous and charitable act, whereas a woman tends to be expected to take on her partner's children without any fanfare.

On the practical side .... while things are improving, I think it's still true to say, generally, that most households haven't yet embraced a completely fair division of labour - even when both parties work equal hours in paid employment - and women still tend to take responsibility for more than their fair share of housework, cooking and childcare. If you then bring extra bodies into the household on even a semi-regular basis, that inescapabily means her workload increases, because extra people mean more mess, more cleaning, more supervision. You don't have to be superbrain to see how women (usually) can therefore feel particularly resentful when "their" work increases as a result of their partners seeing their children .... obviously, in an ideal world, any extra work would be covered off by said partner without a murmur, but realistically, how often does that happen ? Women can also be faced with a hefty dose of emotional blackmail when it comes to their partners pulling their weight ... you get this whole "I don't want to spend precious contact time doing housework" argument which is all very well, but you know, normal life still goes on - even during contact - things still have to be cleaned, put away etc (even more so with extra kids about), so who then, exactly, is supposed to do this before the whole house descends into chaos ?

And all of the above applies to stepfamilies which are relatively sorted. However, if you have the misfortune to have a "difficult" (polite version) ex - which unfortunately, so very often also means "difficult" stepchildren, then damn right the stepmother usually gets a much harder time of it re: his kids compared to his experience of her (the stepmother's) children. If I added up all the hours we've spent going round and round in circles talking about various "ishoos" (ad bloody infinitum) relating to his kids, his ex, contact and so on, compared to the hours spent discussing my child - or indeed our child - I think you'd find the ratio is probably something like 10 to 1. It could even be higher. For the most part my/our kids just get on with life, but with his, it often feels like every last wretched thing is a great big drama, never simple, rarely normal. Quite apart from time, the emotional reserves invested in his kids has been much higher - and needless to say, a disproportionate amount of money has been/is being spent on his kids ( ... though that may surprise the step-bashers who'd like to believe that 2nd families thrive at the expense of the 1st .... errrr no, not always).

So yeah ...... sorry for the rant, but personally, I think it's been far far easier for DP to be a stepparent than it has been for me. My child hasn't caused him long term grief in the same way the many varied problems of my stepkids have caused me. Admittedly, a lot of this is due to his ex - though I firmly believe that divorced parents or not, all children should take at least some responsibility for their own behaviour as they get older (isn't that one of the main objectives of bringing kids up ?!) but the fact remains that regardless of "fault" it's a lot lot harder to deal with/have a relationship with his kids than it is for him to do the same with mine.

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catsmother · 21/03/2012 10:31

(To add: the money thing ... I don't mean unfair presents etc. I simply mean, quite aside from child maintenance, that there has been/still is loads of extra expense attached to seeing his kids, e.g. legal costs for past contact problems, significant travel costs to actually be able to see them at all, past significant expense on buying clothes because ex refused to send any at all ..... that sort of thing, which may be "unavoidable", but all adds to the stress and strain of being a stepparent when you're struggling to provide basics for your own children yet are "forced" to spend money which shouldn't be necessary if ex and stepkids were more reasonable, more considerate, fair, honest etc).

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catsmother · 21/03/2012 10:59

On a roll now, and in short ..... I'm damn sure that DP's never lost a moment's sleep because of my child. Whereas I've had countless sleepness nights fretting about his kids in one way or another. For me, yeah, there's the extra work aspect of and it annoys me that after so many years I still have to "nag" about this (or else I'm taken for granted) but the biggie for me is the emotional strain .... I sometimes feel quite sucked dry by "it" all and in reverse, DP's never experienced that so can be unsympathetic and very defensive if I ever try to discuss it. There's an element there I'm sure of him not wanting to acknowledge how hard it's been/still is because his relationship with his kids is very fragile (big past contact problems) and as things are "better" right now he doesn't want to give any consideration to anything vaguely negative as this would seem disloyal to his kids and/or "threaten" the current status quo.

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BOMtobewild · 21/03/2012 13:12

Short answer to your OP - YES!

Often. i thought it was because both my child and his are girls, and I am a girl (last time I checked) so naturally I get more involved.

But that is a bollocks straw clutching conclusion if it is the same in your house Grin

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BOMtobewild · 21/03/2012 13:14

Catsmother - you are alos right about the emotional strain. DH will listen if I am worried about my DD or if I have a run in with her Dad but he doesn't actually worry about it himself.
In reverse, if there is something happening with his DD, I take it all on my shoulders.
I guess that's not his fault though. NADM said something wise once about letting dad's have ownership of problems with their children.

i cant remember it word for word but it was very sage Grin

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theredhen · 21/03/2012 14:21

At the risk of sounding very old fashioned and sexist, I think women take on board so much more from an emotional point of view.

My DP does tend to have a bit of a selfish stance where everything is from his own viewpoint. For example, he doesn't like it if he can't get through to his kids on the phone, but it's because of his own need to speak with them, not because he thinks the kids would want to speak with him and are being denied contact.

I agree with catsmother that women are still doing the majority of the domestic stuff and having more contact, naturally creates more work around the home.

I think so many of us spend so much time worrying about the step kids, our own kids, the ex's, posting on here, reading books on step parenting, doing the practical stuff whilst our other halves plonk themselves down in front of the TV declaring that it will be OK and for us to stop making a fuss over nothing. If only it was that easy!

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Kaluki · 22/03/2012 15:15

I'm glad it's not just me then.
This weekend is our weekend with them all and I have been changing beds, shopping, and getting their clothes all ready for them.
He will just bring them here on Friday and enjoy his weekend. Job done!!!
Here's hoping the weather stays nice - it is so much easier when the sun is shining!!!!

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BOMtobewild · 22/03/2012 15:25

AMEN to that kaluki

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