HV just been.

[misdee]

trying to give me food advice about dd2 who has restricted herself to bread and milk (how about some cheese on her bread, yoghurts? more fruit? do u take the food away at the end of meals?) all things i have tried.

described her violent outburst, escape attempts (all helped by dd1 piping up, 'yes she bites me, it hurts') how she is dangerous in the kichen, plans to lock the kitchen door as she can undo the stairgate, her falling over, dangerous when outside, her running away, balloons (intense fear), not very social, etc etc.

gosh i am shattered. HV is going to see if dd2 can get more time at pre-school rather than just 2 sessions a week, as i feel she thrives on the more structered enviroment, and i cant cope with her demands on the other 3 days.

[kreamkrackers]

it sounds like this will do both you and your daughter the world of good. do you give any extra vitamin and mineral tablets (or the sweet version of the tablets)? i know it's not much but it might help you relax a bit more about what your dd is getting. how long has her eating habbits been going on for? hopefully she'll come around soon and eat a bit more variety.

[rummum]

You have my sympathy... when my daughter was that age she was the same about food. We had to see a paediatritian because she ended up so anaemic. Looking back there was nothing I could have done to improve things... I mean you can hardly force feed them can you [like those geese]
In the end I gave up.. and gave her what she wanted and supplemented her diet with vitamins and iron.
She is now 9 and eats a lot better, and is still very fussy...

is this the daughter being assessed for ASD?

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[misdee]

yes, this is about dd2. it was all to do with CDC application forms. reasons for requiring assessment or something. had to go into detrails of her birth, my pregnancy, home life etc etc. has she changed since peter was admitted to hospital, no not really, she hasd always been like this.

[misdee]

i have tried to get her to take vitamins btw, there is no fooling her. she has eaten a banana today (wow one piece of fruit lol) which is good for her, but still hasnt had any protein.

[rummum]

I thought my daughter had dyspraxic tendencies, but the EP was more concerned with her Aspergers tendencies. Daughter is still being assessed.

I know it hard but try not to stress with the food issues... (I admit I could have thrown DD and the food threw the window loads of times).
it just turns into more of a battle,

we have the tescos/or bassetts jelly sweet multi vitamins... have your tried those?

My daughter didn't do lumps as a child, did yours?

[misdee]

well didnt happen agin. offered, played with not eaten. tbh i am not stressed by her eating anymore. she wont do certain textures of food. wont do smooth foods (yoghurts, ice cream) but like crispy things. not too keen on lumps either. she gags a lot.

[rummum]

My daughter doesn't do bumpy lumpy crispy & crunchy
Or
crusts
brown toast !
And the rest that I can't think of at the moment. [sigh]

[misdee]

oh she also said 'so the sleeping is getting better with the vallergan, so that isnt so much of an issue' mmmmm so drugging my dd to sleep isnt a problem? GP has said not to use it long term, so its not like i can drug her everynight. she has never slept well, never eaten well. the screams at night are like she is in pain. its horrible.

[Milliways]

Oh Misdee, hope things improve soon!

If she likes crispy things, does she eat crackers or crispbreads? DS would live on these if allowed.

We had Vallergan to get us through infected chicken pox. When another virus followed the GP said use that to get them to sleep - so I can sympathise with the worry over drugging them.

Doe she wake your other DD at night?

[misdee]

she even wakes dd3 who is at the opposite end of the bungalow.

she does like crackers and has them. but she loves bread. adores it.

[alexsmum]

misdee get the vitamin drops and put them in her juice or milk- i used to do that with ds .

[alexsmum]

how about baking some of that bread that has cheese in it? so it's like a normal loaf but cheesy? that would be a way of getting some calories into her? i feel for you misdee-it sounds a nightmare.

[jenk1]

misdee- i was like this as a child and still am, certain textures i wont touch with a barge pole, kiwi fruit, strawberries,squidgy type food, im fine with crispy things, oh the battles i had with my mum to get me to eat the stuff i didnt like

Eg, i like tomatoes, but only the tinned plum or chopped for me to eat a cold tomato would make me physically vomit the feel of the texture in my mouth, the same with carrots ill only eat them if they are mashed up, does your dd eat mashed things as both me and DS like our food mashed, weaning food as we call it!!!

[misdee]

thanks jenk.

oh, and dd2 is also on the waiting list for an OT.

[jenk1]

have you thought about a foodtimetable misdee?

To my DS food is very very important, he checks in the morning what he will be eating for his evening meal etc, we have come to a compromise and he has a food timetable.

It was his clinical psychologist who suggested we implement this and every now and then just introduce other foods but not to make a big deal about it if he doesnt eat them, it has worked wonders in our house, we have the timetable on the wall in the kitchen, dont know if this will help you or your dd though.

[kreamkrackers]

suppernanny did something like that for a lad who would only eat yoghurts. maybe see if she has a website or dr tanya (from house of tiny tearaways) is also good at food problems like these maybe she has a website where you can get some ideas from.

[emmalou78]

misdee, are there any concerns about her hearing?

coudl teh sleep issue be related to it if there are?

just a thought

[Davros]

You can get vitamin supplements on prescription so don't spend tons on them! We used something called Seravit which is a powder and will go in anything. I think you should ask to see SLT about mouth/food issues and a dietician. Mind you, it can be impossible to do anything effective but any avenue is worth trying although you've already tried loads.

[misdee]

no problems with her hearing. it does seem like she is deaf, but she can hear perfectly fine.

i bought some bassett multi vits yesterday, so am going to try to give her one of those i na bit. i tried one myself, and they are ok.

[r3dh3d]

Till the age of 4 I would eat nothing but salami sandwiches (white bread only, no butter) and drink milk. I survived because I drank a lot of milk and my mother put liquid vitamin supplements in it. Now I am 5'6" (average height) and size 14 (average size) so I don't think it did me much harm!

Re: the protein worry - If she's into crispy things, is there any way you can get pulses into her? That would solve most of the protein problem. I suppose bean sprouts would be too much to ask but I was thinking something like bombay mix - if you could find a recipe for how that is made, you could do a less spicy version of just the chickpeas and lentils, and use it as a snack?

Will she have pates and spreads on toast or crispbread?

Hang on - bombay mix recipe at this place - I guess the noodles (most of the work) are optional, then looks like you soak your lentils/beans/whatever then fry off in butter with spices (or whatever flavour you want) for 3 mins.

[misdee]

no to pates and spreads. have tried, in desperation i tried those little jars of sandwich spreads, that was awful lol.