wakes at 5am

[kel28]

Hi im new to this site so please bare with me! I have 3 kids a 9yr old 18 month old and a 9 month old, the 1st 2 are girls they sleep great the 1st is still lazy doesn't matter what time she went to bed she slept at least 12 hours 2nd gets up between 7-9 am depends on weekdays etc. My son is killing me he goes to bed at 7pm like they all have he was a little monkey for waking for a bottle which he didn't need so we made him cry it out on advice from my health visitor, took 2 nights started sleeping till 6 then 5.50 and over last 2 weeks got gradually worse till its been 5am for aboout 10 days if you leave him he screams the whole house down, I've started getting him up he is fine for about half hour then starts moaning and whining until by half 6 he is back in bed and wakes at 9 or until 1 of the other kids wakes him up.
I have no problem with getting up if he wants to stay up but he doesn't and like I say he will scream place down until 7 if I leave him.do you think im putting him to bed too early/ too late ? Im confused by looking at diff sites some say put them to bed earlier and others say that pointless any ideas please before I crack up ha Thanks

[dosydot]

when you get up with him at 5 does he have a bottle then? He may be waking because he is thirsty. I know not everyone agrees with this but although babies over a certain age may not need milk as a food at night, babies do get thirsty.

My Ds has woken early since birth whether he was fed in the night or not.

I admire the small age gap though. How did you cope?I thought my gap was small enough and thats 14 months!

[kel28]

ha it was not planned I had a big age gap first because I kept miscarrying. So I had my 2nd child then when she was 13 wks old I found out I was pregnant again so just took a deep breath and thought what will be will be! Bloody hard work some days other days seems quite easy depends on my toddler to be honest if she is behaving it can go smoothly if she having a mischevious day all my timing can go out the window quite quickly. Just organisation is the key same as you I imagine. Would help loads if the little monkey would sleep. She has potty trained herself this week bless her did well on her first day she missed once and we had a poo accident on 3rd day that has been it so with the girls I've been really lucky my son seems to be making up for them so far. I was trying to be stubborn and not let him have a bottle until 7 but giving him 1 will make him go back to sleep more or less straight away but then it gets to waking every half hour from 11 onwards

[callmeovercautious]

I BF so it is a bit different but DD who is 14m goes through spells of waking at 4/5am she is thirsty so a quick drink will often send her back off. Other days she thinks it is time to get up and then; as you say, she decides to be tired an hour later! So it is not just the boys!
DD tends to do this when the heating is on as it is cold (dry air?) and when teething or has a cold. Perhaps he has a wet nappy that he finds uncomfortable by this time?

I find it hard enough with just 1 lo and working 2 days a week - well done for managing 3 so close and I will be looking for you on potty training advice shortly

[dylanandellie]

I would do as dosydot says and give him a drink (be it milk or something else). Then hop back into bed and go back to sleep. If it affects his sleeping (wasn't sure what you meant about waking every half hour from 11 - nighttime?) then wake him at 7?
Also my ds was also a monkey and we watered down the formula and he just stopped bothering to wake up!!

[dylanandellie]

Oh and it sounds like you do a grand job with your incredibly close babies!!

[kel28]

Thanks. I will explain what I meant before sorry. He was quite good at sleeping thru the night then he decided he wanted to wake up about 6 and he wanted a bottle so I would give it to him, that was ok for a couple of days then he wanted his bottle by 5am then within a week he was waking up from 11pm all the way thru the night until 7am all I would do was give him his bottle he would have a bit go back to sleep for half hour then wake up for more than do the same until it got to a point he was having 3 bottles a night and giving himself a belly ache(he wont take a dummy) so his basically using his bottle as a dummy and Im up god knows how many times. which is why I got told to let him cry it out. I put him to bed half hour early tonight see if that way works. With potty training I just left a potty on the floor for about a month and told her it was her toilet, I went in the bathroom to see what she was up to last week and she was sitting there having a wee all on her own. I didnt do anything really .

[kel28]

Hi I thought I would let you all know that I tried putting to bed half hour early and it bloody well worked could not believe it he woke up at half past 6!!!! Now its been 2 weeks thought I would not jinx myself by telling everyone so try putting baby to bed half hour early his lots better in himself now aswell and it has actually been getting a bit later each morning today was 7.50am he woke up so thanks to everyone for the help and I hope this helps someone as well.