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Early morning waking - advice please

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harriea · 16/02/2006 14:36

I know this is going to sound really annoying - but DS7.5 months has slept through from the 10.30pm feed from 11 weeks (although can wake up anytime from 6am and chat). We dropped the feed at 4.5 months but suddenly for the last month he is waking at 6am and DEMANDING a feed. Often he won't drink his last bottle as he is too full before going to bed. Suggestions anyone?

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 16/02/2006 14:40

Confused - which feed did you drop at 4.5months? The morning one?

mumfor1standfinaltime · 16/02/2006 14:41

Ds wakes every morning demanding a feed and he is 13months! He does go from 6.30pm - 6.30am though.

harriea · 16/02/2006 14:49

We dropped the 10.30pm feed at 4.5 months so he was 7-7. Amazingly good for a boy I know. But reverting rapidly. BEginning to think I should reintroduce a 10.30pm feed........

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MerlinsBeard · 16/02/2006 14:50

feed him?

MerlinsBeard · 16/02/2006 14:52

sorry that was really harsh.

nailpolish · 16/02/2006 14:55

harriea, i think all babies of this age go through little phase like this. a lot will feed at the early hour (in your case 6am) and then go back to sleep say, an hour later, til 9am or so. you could go back to bed or just have a rest on the couch or whatever. eventually they grow out of the phase (which doesnt usually last too long, IME anyway)

harriea · 16/02/2006 15:00

I havwe been feedingbhim at 6am. BUT a) this morning he wasn;t actually that hungry and b) I think if he had the 6.30pm bottle he wouldn't be hungry. Wish he could read the instruction manual.......!

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mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:02

How long does he sleep during the day?

My dd is 8 mths - if she sleeps for ages (more than 3 hrs) in the day she wakes up early. If she gets nowhere near enough (say under 2 hours) she's overtired when she goes down - crashes into a deep sleep and wakes up early again. A happy medium for her is no more than an hour in the morning and 2 after lunch.

Also if she has a mega slow wind down at bedtime - up to an hour in her room, whispering, just feeding and cuddling she goes to sleep beautifully and more peacefully somehow and tends to last til just after 7am.

If it's any consolation - she slept through from a 10:30 feed at 8 weeks and often slept till 8am. At the moment we've had a fortnight of just after 6am which is exhausting! But as NP says sometimes that's just what babies do and it'll sort itself out in a week or so no doubt.

nailpolish · 16/02/2006 15:03

whats your evening routine? do you feed him at 630pm, then he goes to bed? could you move it on an hour, for example?

mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:06

And how much does he eat at dinner time and what time is that - if you're giving him loads to drink with his meal he'll probably not be that bothered by milk so soon.

dd has tea at 5ish and is ready for milk at 6:30, but she'd not interested if the TV's on and is really distracted - which is why everything has been shifted to softly softly whispery whispery

mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:06

x-posts NP!

harriea · 16/02/2006 15:09

We have tried moving tea earlier to 4.45 to make him hungrier for the 6.30pm bottle and I think we are going to ddeop the 2.30 bottle so he is hungrier for tea at an earlier hour. We do all the softly softly stuff. Never has more than 2.5 hrs sleep during the day (seems to be the optimal amount). Can't shift the last bottle later as I think he would prob be asleep by the.!It is doing my head in worrying anout it think I might just go with the flow and hope he grows out of it......

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mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:11

MAybe give him half his 2:30 feed instead then?

nailpolish · 16/02/2006 15:12

dont worry about it. its quite normal. and once youve got used to that routine he will change it all over again

harriea · 16/02/2006 15:12

You mean cut down the 2.30pm feed by half?

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mumfor1standfinaltime · 16/02/2006 15:31

Sorry, but I do not see 6 am waking as early, in our house we are up at 6-6.30am and have been since ds was 8 weeks old! (He is now 13.5m)

I am just grateful that he sleeps through the night. Think you would be mad to re-introduce the 10.30pm feed too!

mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:34

H - yes - giving him half the milk he normally gets might make a difference but I really wouldn't cut out a feed altogether - he needs something b/w lunch and tea at this age there's no way he could wait happily I think. It might make no difference whatsoever but at least you'll have crossed it off your list of things that might be affecting his appetite.

But it's probably just a phase - just go to bed early yourself and steel yourself for a little while longer. You're doing all the right stuff so I would just carry on as you are and ride it out. It really isn't anything to worry about, but I guess you're tired and that's not ideal.

Dd made it to 6:15 this morning and then promptly fell asleep mid feed - the cheek!

harriea · 16/02/2006 15:34

I know, I know. I think I have been brainwashed by the Gina Frod Books which say that you shouild be able to get them to sleep until 7am. I just imagine the comments I am going to get back.......

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mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:36

It's a shock to my system too cos ds sleeps until 8:30am every morning and I assumed his sister would just follow suit...

I'm going to have words with her about that instruction manual tonight

mumfor1standfinaltime · 16/02/2006 15:39

Have never read Gina Ford books, so cant comment on that. Just enjoy your evenings (without a 10.30 feed!) and be glad he sleeps through! I know exactly how you feel about 'early' waking, I hate it! I just remind myself that when Ds is a teensger I shall be the one waking him! "get up, school today, move yourself!" I shall def get my revenge!

mcmudda · 16/02/2006 15:40

Oh and we're following GF too - just noticed the other week though she doesn't actually say they'll sleep til 7am - she says they should be awake changed and feeding by 7 am which to me implies that her babies haven't made it to 7am either! She's definitely rounding her times up to 7am to make it sound more like the morning rather than the middle of the night - which is how it feels sometimes!

mumfor1standfinaltime · 16/02/2006 15:42

mcmudda - Ds is 'to the book' then! LOL

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harriea · 17/02/2006 09:30

Although I don't think anyone will be remotely interested, we changed a few things yesterday and seems to have helped as we had to wake him at 7am this morning!. We moved his lunchtime sleep later to 1pm-3pm so he was not tired when he wnet down at 7am and chatted for 30 mins plus we cut out the 2.30 bottle (which he has never really wanted) which seemed to have the effect of him wanting all the 6.30 bottle.....

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mcmudda · 17/02/2006 10:10

That's great! dd woke up at 6:50 this morning, so loads better here too, but she was up every hour from 7pm til midnight with terrible wind (I've got another thread going on that one!) so maybe she was just exhausted.

She's not that impressed by milk at 2:30 either, but even if she just has a slurp it keeps her oing til 5pm

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