Do mumsnetters really not understand why the press calls them nasty.

(33 Posts)

All these nasty threads about a dead woman, it is disgusting and shows the true colours of many people on this site. Whatever she did or didn't do she is dead, it truly amazes me that you allow threads that say I heard someones was dead so started dancing or singing. The use of the c word why oh why is it needed such a foul word to call someone.

Figgygal Mon 08-Apr-13 21:31:06

Yup today has shown mn at its worst utterly disgusting behaviour

IamtheZombie Mon 08-Apr-13 21:34:59

Do you really think that Mumsnet is the only place where an extremely diverse range of views is being expressed about Baroness Thatcher?

If you see posts that you feel are beyond the pale then do what MNHQ ask you to do and report them.

Lizzylou Mon 08-Apr-13 21:35:05

MN is a cross section of society, lots of people are saying the exact same things across Britain today.
If MN didn't have these types of posts then it would be the time to worry.

Free speech, whether you like it or not.

VBisme Mon 08-Apr-13 21:38:55

I'm from South Yorkshire, if you think this is bad you should see some of the facebook comments.......

Many people were deeply affected by her policies, and still are, I think it's reasonable to allow people to express their views.

Feenie Mon 08-Apr-13 21:39:26

Facebook and Twitter are exactly the same today.

Most posts I have seen are ones abhoring the revelry, anyway.

FigAndPear Mon 08-Apr-13 21:40:48

Well, no. I really don't understand why - just because a proportion of MNers are expressing the same opinions that are being expressed by the same proportion of people - you think this justifies the whole of MN being called nasty. Care to explain? I'm not talking about what people should and shouldn't be saying about Thatcher - I'm talking about why YOU think that makes MN nastier than anywhere else right now.

mumblechum1 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:42:03

I agree. DS (18) just came downstairs and said he was really sickened by some of the nasty stuff on the news; after all, she was someone's mum and grandma, and whatever you thought of her policies, people should show some basic humanity for her family and friends.

If a teenager can figure that out, why can't so many middle-aged mums and grandmas?

usualsuspect Mon 08-Apr-13 21:43:49

I hated her when she was alive,I still hate her now she's dead.

Tee2072 Mon 08-Apr-13 21:44:30

Yes, yes, it's only on MN that people are 'dancing' because MT died. The rest of the world is prostrate with grief. hmm

Don't like this place? No one is forcing you to read or post. Bye.

FigAndPear Mon 08-Apr-13 21:45:04

Or men and grandads and fathers, and women who aren't MN members, all over Twitter and the news sites? This isn't exclusive to MN, you know.

TomDudgeon Mon 08-Apr-13 21:46:55

I'm a mumsnetter and this is the closest I've come to making a comment on it today.
Isn't the point that there are thousands of mumsnetters and we're all different.
Like every other place I've been on today, fb and twitter etc, there have been people making all sorts of different comments.

LadyDamerel Mon 08-Apr-13 21:49:18

What is this obsession with focusing on the negative posts and wilfully disregarding of the far higher proportion of posters challenging what they feel is unacceptable comments?

Why shouldn't MN allow someone to start a thread saying they're pleased MT is dead when the main consensus on the thread is that the OP's view is vile and wrong?

MN is about debate, it's a place where people can express their opinions and if other people feel their opinion is vile and wrong then they will make that known. Surely it's better to have those debates out there so that all sides of the argument are aired and discussed, rather than a censored discussion where only one side is heard?

MNHQ are deleting any comments that they feel are beyond the pale, according to their talk guidelines, it's not as if every single post is being allowed to stand.

I know my opinions of all sorts of different issues have changed as a result of threads I've read on MN and that has to be good too, that posters may be being educated as a result of a thread?

As for the swearing, we're all adults here. Some people like it, some people don't. The whole point of MN that makes it different to other parenting forums is that is is largely unmoderated and swearing is allowed. We're not censored in any way and for me, that is why I post here and nowhere else.

Bowlersarm Mon 08-Apr-13 21:53:57

MN isn't for the faint hearted IMO. Maybe it's the threads I have been venturing on recently but some posters are spitting bile and contempt and I'm sure many of them are hiding their bravery behind a computer screen. I simply avoid threads with some posters on them because of their viciousness.

I think for younger (than me) MNers it's probably great for pregnancy baby advice, and there are some great supportive threads like Brave Babes but venture into AIBU or politics and it can get very nasty

AliceWChild Mon 08-Apr-13 21:55:42

Considering all the vile stuff on Facebook, twitter and that big site I forget the name of, why is all the criticism saved for MN.? Ironically I would bet its for pretty much the same reason that hatred is reserved for Thatcher than all the other politicians involved. Misogyny.

I detest what Thatcher stood for, but the way she is scapegoated is striking.

HelenMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 08-Apr-13 21:56:10

Evening.

To reiterate what we have already posted on many of the Thatcher threads, we have no problem with folks voicing strong opinions about Thatcher's politics but we will delete posts that we consider to be beyond the place - and we include in that posts about "dancing on her grave" and the like. Please do report to us any posts of this sort.

But, to answer your question, OP, we do find it baffling that Mumsnetters are labelled nasty - when we see, daily on the boards, the most incredible examples of kindness, support and friendly, good-humoured advice.

WorraLiberty Mon 08-Apr-13 21:57:35

I've seen some crass/vile things posted about MT today

But all over the internet - certainly not just on Mumsnet.

Twitter and FB are exactly the same today so it's unfair to point at MN only.

Don't believe everything you read in the papers.

RatPants Mon 08-Apr-13 22:01:09

It's not just here, it's everywhere. Things being said on here are pretty tame compared to some I've seen.

MN isn't moderated in the same way as other boards so of course it's not all sweetness and light. Sometimes people overdo it with the swearing because they can.

I remember my first thread on MN about 3 years ago when I was terrified about looking after my PFB and DH was going back to work. Everyone was lovely. It was so nice. However this was probably in the parenting topic where no journalist one goes as topics like AIBU are so prevelant in active threads.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep Mon 08-Apr-13 22:02:08

Yes, you're absolutely right, OP. Every time MT dies, MNers say how pleased they are. And that's why decent folk hate us.

Seriously?

Even if some people are a little extreme in their opinions, you can't tar us all with the same brush... But thanks for doing so...

RumbleGreen Mon 08-Apr-13 22:10:43

It is really nasty, especially since she is dead she won't give a shit anymore the ones this will effect would be her loved ones.

FigAndPear Mon 08-Apr-13 22:20:06

In that case, the problem is surely a general one? Yet the OP's point was about MN, and MN alone.

LadyBeagleEyes Mon 08-Apr-13 22:21:39

Have you looked at the rest of the internet today Op?
Believe me MN is mild, in fact we've been practically censored.

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