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Guide to Progress 8

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2016 18:37

Anyone interested in secondary education will be hearing more about Progress 8 over the coming months, especially when the league tables come out in January.

I think this link is a good explanation of how it will work:
www.tes.com.c.tes.ent.platform.sh/sites/default/files/progress_8_dps_2.pdf

And why it's not necessarily a measure of school effectiveness:
educationdatalab.org.uk/2015/05/why-do-pupils-at-schools-with-the-most-able-intakes-tend-to-make-the-most-progress/

And a criticism of the calculations:
headguruteacher.com/2015/05/02/progress-8-looks-like-data-garbage-to-me/

Also, please remember that because of confidence intervals, you CANNOT say that a school that has a progress 8 score of 1 is better than a school that has a score of 0.9.

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MrsGuyOfGisbo · 13/09/2016 10:38

Interesting!
Some schools are openly stating what their score is this year, even though they do not have to.
If they have being gaming the system to prioritise the D to C borderline at the expense of the A and E pupils they will not be keen.
Definitely worth asking at open evenings - they can then present any justifications they want to for a lower score.
However if it is a case of 'the primaries are inflating the KS2 results' that doesn't wash as would be the same for all, so would not affect comparisons between secondaries.

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stubiff · 13/09/2016 12:33

noblegiraffe, the current/old Value Add measure also showed more progress for the better intakes/attainers, so it's not just a Progress 8 problem. Whether it's a problem with the 'progress' measure or just a fact of life, I don't know.

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