Admissions- would this be allowed?

[EmmaU]

Hi I'm just after a bit of advise about applying for my ds's secondary school this Septemeber. He's currently in year 5 at a C of E school and we are hoping that he will move on to the C of E secondary. Where we live at the minute we are around two miles from the secondary but as we live in one of the designated parishes and he attends one of the feeder primary schools he should fingers crossed get a place. My question really is about moving house after we have applied.

Like I said we already live within the parish so we wouldn't be one of those parents moving closer to a school and then moving away once their child has a place. Our situation is that the house we are in is private rented and the landlord has told us that he plans to put it up for sale around August/September. As the same thing happened to us a couple of years ago with our landlords deciding to sell we went onto the council list as a back up and have been on there for the last three years and I've still been bidding for properties each week.

We haven't been offered a property so far as the only area we have been interested in is the area we are in now and it's very popular, and what with us being in the lowest band we have very little chance. But we are considering bidding on another area that is just as nice but doesn't seem as popular in terms of bids. The area we are looking at is actually closer to the secondary school we would like our Ds to go to but as it's not a designated parish of the school if we moved before we applied then there's no chance our son would get in.

So I suppose what I'm asking is if we are lucky enough to get a property with the council after we've applied for our son's secondary school would the admissions team use our old address so the address we applied from and we were living at the time or would they use our new address? I don't want to break any rules and I was quite happy to stay in our house but we have no choice but to move and from what the lady I spoke to at the council said it seems that if we chose properties in that particular area then we wouldn't be waiting too long as even though we are in the lowest band we've been in that band the longest.

[Twinkie1]

I think you have to live in the correct place on the offer day.

[AnchorDownDeepBreath]

Yeah, Twinkie is right. You'd need to be living in the right place on offer day.

[TeenAndTween]

i.e. 1st March 2017.

[TeenAndTween]

You need to check with your LA whether they use close of applications, or offers day or something else.
or whether if you move between those dates will they use new address but call it a late application.

e.g. Hampshire:

If you move house before the application deadline you must amend your online application or submit a new paper application form.

If you move house after the application deadline you must contact the County Admissions Team in writing with evidence of your new address: exchange of contracts or a signed tenancy agreement (usually for 12 months duration) will be accepted as proof of address. You may subsequently be asked to demonstrate that the child is resident at the new address and any place offered may be withdrawn if this evidence cannot be provided.

Where evidence of a new address is received by the County Admissions Team by 8 January 2016 (for Year 7 applicants) or 15 February 2016 (for Year R and Year 3 applicants), parents may, at the same time, change the schools named in their original on-time application. Additionally, the application will then be considered in relation to the new address unless the applicant specifically requests that the child’s address on 31 October 2015 (Year 7 applicants) or 15 January 2016 (Year R and Year 3 applicants) is used instead.

A new address resulting from a house move notified after 8 January 2016 (Year 7) or 15 February 2016 (Year R and Year 3) can be used to communicate the outcome of the application but it cannot be used to determine the outcome of an on-time application made from the previous address.

[Potterwolfie]

It's not March 1st, as offers will already have been made by then, that's just the announcement date.

You would need to check with your LEA and/or admissions authority as many admissions authorities set a date of early/ mid Jan, and your address then (you wpyld need proof of address) would be the one taken into account.

[bojorojo]

Are you sure the C of E secondary school does not have feeder C of E primary schools? Is it all down to Parish? Could you possibly persuade the Landlord to hold on for a bit? Is there any room for negotiation? Could you move into a rented property in the Parish? Is there nothing suitable?

[EmmaU]

Hi yes it does have feeder schools but these are unofficial however almost all of the children who attend the three primary schools have gone on to get places at the secondary. Ultimately it comes down to which parish we are in and even though we'd be closer in distance if we moved to the next town, that town is all catholic and community schools so have their own parishes.

[bojorojo]

Sometimes C of E schools have a formal link with C of E feeder primaries. Another source of information should be the admissions information for previous years. What distance have they taken children who live out of the parish? This should be on the LA's school admissions web site. Have they taken children from the road you are intending to live in?

[prh47bridge]

I'm afraid the advice on this thread so far is wrong.

It is up to the LA what happens if you move after applying. It may depend on exactly when you move. Some will insist on using your new address and may also treat you as a late applicant, which will mean they won't look at your application until all the on time applicants have been allocated places. Some will insist on using your old address. Some will let you decide. You need to ask your LA. Alternatively if you would like to tell us which LA you are talking about I may be able to find out for you. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to post that information publicly.

[prh47bridge]

I'm afraid the advice on this thread so far is wrong

Sorry - that should have been "some of the advice". My apologies to those giving correct advice.

[admission]

As your son is in year 5 currently, you will need to apply for secondary school from 1st September 2016 to 31st October 2016.
So if you move before 1st September it is quite straightforward, you must use the new address. Effectively same thing applies if you move between 1st September and 31st October, you have to use the new address even if you have applied using the old address by informing the LA.
The fun time is after 31st September and you do really need to look very carefully about what each LA says, as they do vary. I would get anything the LA say in writing, just for your own protection as sometimes there are misunderstandings about what is being asked.
I suppose one question for you is what will your landlord do, allow you to stay until the property is sold or ask you to leave by September. If it is the later than you really will be in a position of having to move to the alternate area where you are unlikely to get a place at your preferred school.
You are in catch 22 position really but it seems to me that the longer you can stay in the current property the more likely it is that this will be the address used for admission purposes, especially if you get to 1st March 2017, which is the date of admission places being announced.

[admission]

As your son is in year 5 currently, you will need to apply for secondary school from 1st September 2016 to 31st October 2016.
So if you move before 1st September it is quite straightforward, you must use the new address. Effectively same thing applies if you move between 1st September and 31st October, you have to use the new address even if you have applied using the old address by informing the LA.
The fun time is after 31st September and you do really need to look very carefully about what each LA says, as they do vary. I suppose one question for you is what will your landlord do, allow you to stay until the property is sold or ask you to leave by September. If it is the later than you really will be in a position of having to move to the alternate area where you are unlikely to get a place at your preferred school.
You are in catch 22 position really but it seems to me that the longer you can stay in the current house the more likely it is that this will be the address used for admission purposes, especially if you get to 1st March 2017, which is the date of admission places being announced.