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extreme insecurity leading to ruin

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fathersday · 09/06/2010 16:22

Objectively speaking my husband is an absolutely wonderful man. He has a lovely caring outlook on life, lives by very firm principles, is professionally very successful and is, not that a matters in the slightest, very good looking. He was attracted to me and I to him initially as we seemed very similar ? both outgoing, confident, clever, happy. We got married and I was as sure as sure can be that I was making a great decision. We have now been married 8 years, as time has gone on we have become more and more different. I have remained as I always have been, really happy in anyone?s company, undaunted by almost any social situation, happy to talk to anyone, and not really experiencing shyness that much. I like going out, but don?t go out that much as I like much more staying at home with my family. I like to be there for my children and they all have busy lives that need a lot of administration ? arranging socialising with other children, making sure they have everything they need for school trips, projects etc, and helping them with their homework and other activities at home. They are undoubtedly my priority. However every now and again, I do go out, to a party, with friends, whatever. I would dearly love it if my husband came with me and enjoyed himself. Sometimes he does come with me. It is almost always an unmitigated disaster. If too many other people talk to me, he gets upset and wants to leave. He usually ends up leaving early and I always go with him as I feel guilty about him going angrily or upset home on his own. But I also resent this as I feel it is putting an end to one of my few nights out, when there is no real reason for it apart from his - as I see it ? ludicrous insecurity. It is not so much that he thinks I will cheat on him (I would never ever do this), he says the fact that I am popular and people want to talk to me, more than him, makes him feel bad. From my point of view, everyone wants to speak to each of us equally, all through the night, we will be in equal demand, not that it is a competition anyway, until he starts his moody withdrawal from everything, often accompanied by calling me ?Miss Popularity? and then, when he gives monosyllabic answers to people or even ignores them completely preferring to whisper in my ear about how we need to go and how popular I am and how he holds me back and so should just leave me there, then perhaps understandably, people tactfully leave him alone. I am at my wits end. He says he would be happier if he was with someone more mediocre as my success and popularity (obviously these are his words and his perspective, this is not what I am saying about myself!) make him feel rubbish and he feels in my shadow. I love him very much and when the going is good, it is really very good ? he is a great dad, and is funny and witty and can socialise, but only when there is absolutely no threat that I may speak to someone of around our age, that I am not related to. We have built a wonderful life together which I know from the outside must look perfect ? our children are all healthy and happy, we have great jobs, enough money and a lovely place to live. I have everything I have always wanted, apart from a husband who has the confidence to enjoy a social life with me.

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fathersday · 09/06/2010 16:32

o yes and other people are starting to notice his odd behaviour towards me when we are out socialising. And he is able to socialise really happily and have great fun, on his own, in certain circumstances,. In other situations he really struggles and sometimes ends up in silence with people at big dinner parties he goes to or something. If he goes out with people he trusts, he has a great time. If he goes out with peope he wants to impress, he really suffers. For others, like for me, if i ended up in an awkward silence i would think it hilarious the next day and wold laugh about it. For him, it is reason to be really low and depressed and question his enture self worth and ability to survive an adult life. Often this lasts for a few days.

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:04

so sorry to try and bump this up when i know others have much more serious things they are trying to deal with, but i would be very glad if anyone had any advice or opinions about the way my husband is acting. has anyone had any experience of anything similar?
please help! I really need an outside perspective.

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:08

What a difficult situation for you.. I hope somebody wise comes along soon as I have no idea, but I think it's very important that you see that, as much as you support him, the problem lies with him.
Is he fine at work?

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:12

he is great at work, professionally successful, goes out for a drink after work with his team, has a nice time.
thank you so much for the response!!

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:15

Does he see what he's doing? Could you write this out (presuming he'd be a bit miffed about you discussing it on here..) and show it to him?

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:19

He sees it to some extent yes. But he always explains it in terms as I've set out above - that I am so popular and he is so unpopular and he finds that really difficult and so that is why he behaves as he does. I am not sure he realises that other people notice. He says my success highlights his inadequacies - though he accepts that this is only to him, and not to anyone else.

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:21

You know you need somebody to help you, don't you?

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:22

no I don't - who? how? I am not sure what sources of help there are but am open to anything at this stage!

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EleanorHandbasket · 10/06/2010 10:24

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:25

Sorry, that sounded flippant. What I mean is that it isn't going to go away and he will probably need a third person to point that out to him..
Private pychologist? It might not take too many sessions..

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:29

ok yes, sorry, i was in a bit of a stream of consciousness desperate to get it all out!

have to persuade him to go. will try that though. feel life slipping away, so much fun to be had by both of us and our children and i am spending quite a lot of it anxious about this load of ole rubbish.

sometimes i think he is being a tosser. i am not sure if he is depressed / anxious, has some real genuine mental problem, or if he is just being a total bloody pain in the arse.

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:32

From here I don't think it sounds like he's being a pain in the arse just for the sake of it..
But counselling will help to find out and if he doesn't make any changes then maybe you can say he is being an arse

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fathersday · 10/06/2010 10:32

I've done a new thread where my OP has paragraphs and is easier to read - could we use that one? Is that ok?
thanks

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mamsnet · 10/06/2010 10:33

ok

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