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Serial high achievers

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danceallnight · 15/12/2012 14:42

I have been doing a lot of introspection recently, and I think this is what I am. It's like a lightbulb just switched on, and I thought wow, that explains that, and that, and that... By the way, I'm not being arrogant and saying I'm better than everyone else. On the contrary, I worry that I'm not good enough compared to other people.

My parents divorced when I was young and I think that's what has contributed to it - not necessarily the high achievement, but the need to be a high achiever in order to feel good about myself. I did really well at school and university. Then I went on to do a PhD, and found it difficult. Not because I wasn't good at it, but because I couldn't control it. Research is naturally unpredictable, so however good my reasoning and hypotheses were, sometimes the experiments just wouldn't work and that was really stressful for me. Other things I have done in my life point towards being a high achiever too. For example, I initially planned to apply to vet school, and 50% of the reason was because I knew it was the hardest subject to get in for. And a few years ago I did a half marathon just for the challenge of it, despite being a very non-sporty person.

It's weird because I don't know who I'm trying to please with being a high achiever. At first perhaps it was my family, but I think more recently it has been myself. For example, my mum didn't necessarily thing a PhD was the best career path (she would have preferred me to have a stable job, like teaching for example), but I did it anyway, probably to prove to myself that I could.

But of course, it's not bad to be a high achiever, as long as you are doing it for the right reasons. But I'm finding it difficult now to decide why I am doing certain things. After my PhD I decided to go ahead and just do a regular job. It's a good job and I love it, but it's not highly paid or with high status. So to me and the outside world, I'm just a regular person now, not a high achiever, which has lead to me having a few wobbles about it. I've been wondering whether to switch to a different career (which also sounds really interesting), which would require more training and exams, but would be highly paid and with high status.

Are there any other high achievers out there who have had similar experiences?

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Alittlestranger · 15/12/2012 14:59

It's an interesting way to characterise yourself. From what you've written you don't really sound like a serial high achiever. It sounds like you like challenges and status and like many of us you find somethings easy and somethings more difficult.

It sounds like you're frustrated as you've realised the promise you maybe thought you had when you were younger hasn't translated into specific recognition and achievements as an adult. If status is important to you than go for this other job.

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CogitOCrapNotMoreSprouts · 15/12/2012 15:04

The question to ask when you're not sure any more why you're engaging in any mildly obsessional behaviour is whether it is filling a gap created by something else. Usually the something else is extremely banal and ordinary. Love, children, acceptance/respect, sexual fulfilment etc. Would that apply to you at all?

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Dozer · 15/12/2012 15:12

Do you mean being academic, "brainy" and driven?

I was these things at school and university, then went on to a relatively high-status occupation. Haven't been as successful (if measured by bonuses, promotion, popularity etc) at work, maybe because I'm not as good at my job as was at exams, other people are more hard-working/suited to the work and have better interpersonal skills.

IME being a "high achiever" at school and university can sometimes make it difficult to adjust to working life!

Few people do anything other than "regular" things in life! And many who do exceptional things were not exceptional academically.

In thinking about a career change, find out as much as you can about the career you're interested in, working hours, availability of jobs in places you'd like to live, reputation for family-friendly hours etc (if a relationship and family is what you want).

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VBisme · 15/12/2012 15:13

Have you read a book called secret thoughts of successful women? I think you'd find it useful.

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LemonDrizzled · 15/12/2012 15:24

danceallnight I know where you are coming from. I was the hardworking good clever oldest DC and tried for Oxbridge and a demanding career (which I actually love). But for me a part time job and time for my DC and my hobbies keeps me very balanced and happy. And I think that is what my parents want for me too.
My XH is the same but part of his motivation was trying to be so good that he would keep his abusive parents happy and married (failed obviously!). He rose meteorically to the top of his field in the world and has money status and recognition. But underneath it all he has low self esteem and it is never enough. Marrying me meant I was included in the perfectionism and he made me feel (playing on my good girl tendencies) that I wasn't a good enough housekeeper or sophisticated enough or smart enough. Actually maybe I projected that into him Confused

I think accepting "good enough" is the answer. Now I live on my own I can have things as I want and not try to live up to an impossible colour supplement version of life!
Interesting thread though. What would you do differently if you were 18 again?

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danceallnight · 15/12/2012 16:47

I don't know alittlestranger. I think objectively I have a good job and am successful, but I am constantly comparing myself to my siblings and my friends. Until I took this job, I was pretty much top at everything I did compared to my peers (despite finding the PhD not necessarily suited to my character). DP gets frustrated as I will talk one day about how much I love my job, and the next about whether I should be doing something more challenging, or something like X does, or something that earns more money.

CogitO, the weird thing is there is nothing missing in my life. I am happy in all other respects. The two things that bother me most are 1. my relationship with my mum. She tends to play the martyr, and I am constantly trying to please her and make her happy, and 2. I have low confidence/self-esteem in some situations (eg. social situations with lots of people I don't know). But otherwise, I have great friends, a wonderful DP and hobbies etc that I enjoy.

VBisme thanks, I will try the book.

Lemon I'm not really sure what I would do at 18. The degree I did was brilliant, but the PhD was probably not quite right for me (although it wasn't horrible). I think that actually the career I'm considering now is something I could have done back then. But that was a few years ago when I had the time and energy to do all the extra training. The PhD has drained me quite a lot I think, and now I quite like having my evenings to myself to relax/do hobbies etc. Plus I would like to have children in the not-too-distant future.

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