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Scared of commitment... need some advice

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aurynne · 12/09/2010 22:37

Hi all,

A bit of background: I have always been a very independent person, have worked in several countries, have had many short and medium-term (2-3 years) relationships, love travelling, adventure, you name it.

Two years ago I met my current DP. He is the best person I have even known, mature, gentle, loving, hard-working... Everything I thought could never come together in a man. I am head-over-heels in love with him, and I believe he is with me too. We have bought a house together, and he has mentioned many times he wants to "see my hair go gray".

He is the prince charming many women wouldn't hesitate to marry, and in fact he is the first and only person I can see myself spending my life with.

By now you will be wondering, "well, what is the problem then?". The problem is, I am scared. I have been through so many relationships, I have been in love before and I know it does not last forever. It never bothered me before, as I knew if I stopped loving the other person, or something went wrong, I could always leave (and I did... I have always been the one to break up with my previous boyfriends). Now I am envisaging committing with my DP for the rest of my life. I imagine him asking me to marry him and my heart goes up in knots. If he is not the one for me, then the one just does not exist. I can't imagine being without him. But I am still scared... what if some big hurdle comes along in our relationship and I find myself trapped in it in the future? What if I break his heart? God knows he has been treated awfully in the past, and I dread the thought of hurting him myself.

I am very conscious that none of these thoughts are rational... I have taken many, many risks during my life, and have taken them gladly. I have never been the kind of person to be shy against a challenge. I have moved to the other side of the World on my own. And mostly, things have gone very, very well with my life. I can't understand why I am feeling like this with one of the decisions that could make me the happiest woman on earth!

Why can't I just enjoy my good luck? Is there anyone that feels this fear of commitment too? Anyone that was like me and managed to get over this stupid feeling? Anyone that can come in and slap me? Please bring some sense to me...

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thesunshinesbrightly · 12/09/2010 23:55

Are you me?

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IseeGraceAhead · 13/09/2010 01:25

I don't think this is worth worrying about. What's wrong with taking life as it comes - together? If you love each other this much, then go ahead and make plans ... but don't get married. Is this what you meant?

FWIW, I don't believe in 'commitment phobia'. Some people have a mistrust of marriage, usually based on past experience. Everybody has a 'fear of engulfment' and a 'fear of abandonment'. In some people, myself included, one or both of these is overblown - also due to past experience, but this time often rooted in babyhood. Yours don't seem to be causing you to wilfully break up good relationships or to cling on to bad ones, so it's not pathological and you don't really need to go rootling around in your deepest darkest mind (unless you want to for some other reason). It's just a foible of yours, as far as it goes.

You are not actually being irrational: you're being supremely rational! No couple can guarantee a long and happy life together. Stuff happens. It is irrational to pretend this guarantee exists. If you're being picky about it, it's dishonest to extend that guarantee iyswim. You've said "I can't imagine being without him." That is the greatest statement of love anyone can make.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/09/2010 01:27

no, you're definitely me.

I worry about breaking DP's heart. Conceited really, it would serve me right if he broke mine :(

I don't know what the answer is, but just wanted to let you know that it's not just you.

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strandedatsea · 13/09/2010 01:53

Hmmmm are you sure this is fear of commitment to a man rather than fear of "settling down" - eg seeing the rest of your life mapped out before you?

I ask because of the many references you make to travel and living and working overseas. That looks like someone who likes adventure, who doesn't like knowing what the future holds, who enjoys chopping and changing and doing something new every so often. Have you also changed job quite a lot?

Now you have met someone you want to spend the rest of your life with, you can suddenly see at least one aspect of what your future holds and perhaps that scares you?

I am probably totally wrong but I am thinking this because you do sound a lot like me. I had travalled and moved around a lot, and never stayed in a relationship for long (as soon as a man seemed serious about me I backed off), before I met my DH. Anyway I guess something was just right as here we are a few years down the line with a house and two dd's and I am so glad I took the plunge and committed to him. The future is a little clearer for me, but it's still full of avdenture and excitement - albeit of a totally different kind from before I met him!

Anyway you'll be fine. Acknowledge your feelings and talk to him about them, but from what you have written, it does sound like you have found the person you want to "settle" with. Good luck!

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whatdoesntkillu · 13/09/2010 02:09

Reading this it sounds like exactly where I was a few years ago. I too have worked in a number of different countries, always as a single independent person, though have had relationships on the way. And I am a commitment phobe in so many areas of my life!

I met Mr Perfect back in 2001, in another country actually, and though he asked me to marry him almost immediately, like you my heart went into knots every time he brought up the subject. After around 4 years I said no to him just because I couldn't make the leap to say yes, but that just felt like the wrong decision. So I said a half hearted yes, but had a number of panic attacks after that, one where I ran out of the jewelers in tears at the thought of the buying rings! Poor thing really didn't know where he stood with me for ages.

Anyway, after much deliberation, ending the relationship a number of times for fear of keeping him hanging on, In 2006 I finally took a deep breath and decided to go for it.

I can now say 100% it was the best decision I ever made. I've never regretted it and just can't believe it took me so long to say yes! We both laugh about my fear of commitment now, but I have to say that for me marriage did change things in my mind, in a way that I never expected, it kind of sealed the relationship, iykwim. On our wedding day, nothing on earth could have stopped me getting to that church... that was a huge turn around for me! I'd always assumed I'd end up being like the woman on Runaway Bride!

Oh, another thing that made me make the leap and say yes was talking to someone else who had been through the same process... you know the fear of him bringing up the subject. She said that she realised her fear wasn't a sign that the relationship was wrong so decided to go for it anyway. That fear was different to not being sure the relationship was "right" That gave me lots of courage.

Really hope you can work this one through, sounds like he's a wonderful man. Best of luck!

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/09/2010 02:22

that's interesting whatdoesn'tkillu - what were your specific worries beforehand?

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IseeGraceAhead · 13/09/2010 02:25

Aww, what lovely posts here!
Just to add, OP, I have a friend (also much-travelled) who's been very happily not-married to the same nice man for 20 years. She'd got divorced twice, her parents divorced and so did all her sibs. It took her a while to convince him they stood a far better chance together if they didn't get hitched. But she held out - and it works :)

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gingerwig · 13/09/2010 02:52

why does it have to be all or nothing?
You sound very sensible. Don't get married. Keep enjoying the relationship.
I have never really understood this "making a commitment" thing.

It is what it is. (your relationship)
Some people try to preserve a relationship by some sort of public / formal commitment - usually getting married.

That' s not for you. (or me!)

And you are dead right to realise it is unlikely to stay as wonderful as it is now.

Just be grateful you worked that out. So many people seem to feel obliged to marry/"settle down" . DON'T DO IT! and good luck! The world needs more like you/us!

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aurynne · 13/09/2010 03:01

I am so relieved to read all your answers... I expected that half of them (at least) would be something like: "after all the stories of cheating and abuse in this forum, how dare you feeling like that when you have the perfect relationship, you idiot?".

It feels so good to see I am not the only one! It is such a strange feeling to be so happy and at the same time so scared.

Strandedatsea, you have defined me to the spot! Back in November last year I left my job in order to move with him to a different city... first time in my life I did something like that! (that being, living my job and moving for someone else... I had done that for myself several times before). We bought the house and got a shared account. It took me a while to find a job, and until then I went into a period of very, very low mood (perhaps mild depression?), "panic attacks" about not having my own independent account and earnings, overwhelming feeling about having a mortgage... I went back to normal shortly after finding a job.

My life has always been full of adventure and improvisation, and I love it that way. My DP and I have many things in common, and I know we will have excitement and adventure together... but yes, in a way committing to him would mean to set that part of my life in stone (so to speak).

Whatdoesntkillu, your post also means a lot to me. Even though some other posters have suggested to stop worrying about marriage (he hasn't even asked me yet!), I do believe tying that knot would be important to me, in order to take that decision and move on, or "to seal the relationship", as you very well express. It feels like there is a switch in my mind that I would need to turn. I can very well imagine marrying him and I think I would be so excited, proud and moved by it that it would probably be the most amazing day in my life. And I do believe I could be a good wife. It is getting there mentally that is proving to be hard for me, for some reason. I also believe if I am strong enough to get over my immature childishness in this area, it will be the best decision in my life. He is really one of a kind :).

Please keep your opinions coming, this is already helping setting my mind at ease. There are other committment-phobes out there, and it has worked out for them! :)

Now, if my DP pops the question any time soon, I will have to come back and tell you about it! (that is, if I haven't run for the hills)

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whatdoesntkillu · 13/09/2010 03:54

ElephantsAndMiasmas you asked what my specific worries were... ok, so we were from different cultures, but that wasn't a major worry to be honest... loosing my freedom, loosing the "option" to move on if something better came along, worrying I didn't love him enough, worrying I might get bored, worrying I might hurt him.

But mainly just feeling unsettled about it all, not feeling at peace about it.

OP from my experience, that "switch" wasn't something I could rush, it had to happen in its own time. DH does still give me a hard time about making him wait so long but I just couldn't have done it any sooner, it was a process I had to go through and for me it took 5 years!

BTW worrying I didn't love him enough... I really do believe something happens when you make the decision to commit, whether to marry someone or just to be together "forever". I have to say that since we got married the way I feel about DH has intensified far beyond what I ever imagined. Before it was him who was head over heels about me. I was more relaxed about it all and tbh let him do the running. Now I would say that it's much more equal, I'm crazy about him :)

And the adventure didn't stop there... we now have 2 children and live in the Amazon jungle (believe it or not!). Commitment doesn't have to mean boring!

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ClimberChick · 13/09/2010 04:34

I could have written elephants original reply

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aurynne · 13/09/2010 04:46

"we now have 2 children and live in the Amazon jungle" --> whatdoesntkillu... are you writing a weblog about your life? If so, please, send me the link... I would LOVE to read about it!

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marantha · 13/09/2010 18:02

You ask for sense, can I try to give you what I see to be sense?

What is marriage? What is it really when all is said and done? Will it make you love your partner any more/less? I don't think so.
I don't believe the act of marrying will have any effect on your 'love levels' for him.

Your fear of marriage because of commitment issues? Your not going to be more or less committed just because you get married.
Such things are in the heart- not a marriage certificate.

So if it's not about love and commitment, what is marriage about? Truthfully, it is is a legally-binding contract that has a host of legal/financial ties on those who sign up to it.

Now, by all means be scared because you are wary about the legal/financial implications of marriage (lots of people are), but, for goodness sake, don't be scared because of love and commitment issues.

You either love and are committed or not- getting married will make no difference.

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igetbored · 14/09/2010 20:14

I am just like the posters on here and I might bring another aspect.
I have travelled for jobs, been sponantous and left my hometown for jobs elsewhere when bored and a few years ago I married my husband.

It has been fantastic, i felt safe,secure and loved but now a few years down the line am bored! Dreaming of just being able to be like i used to be. I am in hum drum 9-5 life and its not me, i want to scream but cant get off this ride.

What do i do? Yes it was right for me then but is it now?
I feel in some way that he was right for me then at that point in my life but do things last forever? Dont we are humand beings change all the time? How can we stay the same?

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whatdoesntkillu · 14/09/2010 20:39

igetbored sorry to read your post. I get bored easily as well and would hate a 9-5 "normal" job.

Is it your DH you're bored with or your life? If it's the former, that's tricky. If it's the latter then there ARE things you can do. We moved to another country (with a small child and 1 on the way) and life certainly hasn't boring. Would DH be willing to make a dramatic change and move with you somewhere completely different?

OP is your DP the type who would want a boring settled life or is he the adventurous type?

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SolidGoldBrass · 14/09/2010 20:47

It amazes me that people say 'scared of commitment' like it's a bad thing. Yes, of course, committed couplehood makes some peope very happy, blahblahblah, but it simply doesn't suit some of us. And it's a bad mistake to decide to 'go for it' when you don;t really want to, just because 'everyone else' thinks that you should settle down or whatever.
Unless your DP is pushing for change, Aurynne, just sit back and enjoy the ride. Relationships don't have to progress along a straight linear path at a set speed. Do what suits you and your DP, never mind what other people do.

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freedomfrom · 14/09/2010 21:04

Its sounds like you think 'marrage' equals FOREVER, not matter what. and its great if it does. But really you can always get out of it. I know its very unlikely you're going to want to, but I think if you have a different perspective on marriage then it wont seem so scary.
I too have done a lot of travelling etc etc... and have noticed in the back of my mind there is always a 'get out clause' with everything. My jobs have been 'contracts', hence self employed, the house I bought, i rented out to tennants etc...
The is a good book called Getting to Commitment, that helps to deal with the fears and things that stop us commiting.
However I think what you're feeling is perfectly normal, and everyone has a fear of commitment to some degree. However, if you have a house and bank account with this guy then surely that is just as commited? Smile

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igetbored · 14/09/2010 22:36

whatdoesntkillu - i think its a bit of everything. Bored with dh and with our life. Just stuck in a rut although we on about moving abroad but to to be honest its me all over, im great for the first year or so then bored so even if i moved would happen again.
Just dont know what i get like this?!

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aurynne · 15/09/2010 01:13

The funny thing is, my DP hasn't brought up the subject of marriage at all, he probably thinks I would be too scared of the it. It is just me thinking and worrying about it, and I wonder if the reason for this is that marriage is actually important for me. I am quite sure that if I suggested not getting married at all, and just enjoy this relationship as partners, he would agree.

SolidGoldBrass, I can assure you no one is influencing me on this. It is just puse masochism on my side to make a fuss over marriage :).

igetbored, I can definitely see myself in your position in some years, although in my case I am sure my DP would be happy to move around and change jobs and country... he has done it before and loved the experience! However, I am not sure he would enjoy change as frequently as I would like. I also hate getting stuck in a routine.

freedomfrom, I do believe marriage should be forever, or at least the intention when getting married should be that (just personal opinion here). I would take the vows to love and respect the other person until the end of my days very, very seriously. My DP was married before and it took him 7 years to take the very painful decision to leaving his wife, and he felt depressed and guilty about that (he is still mourning the loss of the marriage). If I told you the things he had to go through during that marriage, you would not believe he lasted that long. That is another reason I could not get married to him thinking "oh well, if things go wrong I will just get out"... I know it can be done, but it would probably destroy him and his faith in relationships. And that is something I don't want to risk. He deserves better.

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aurynne · 15/09/2010 01:14

"scared of the it" --> that should have read "scared of it"... anyone else thinks an "edit" button would be a great option in MN? :)

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marantha · 15/09/2010 09:17

aurynne Sorry, but you are making little sense to me.
Marriage seems to be some kind of holy grail to you.
The implicit message in your post is that anything other than marriage is some kind of halfway house in terms of commitment.
Are you seriously saying that a couple who have been together unwed for 30 years and have two children are uncommitted? Hmm.


To my mind this is nonsense (don't mean this as personal attack on you). Sorry but it is.

Do you honestly believe that getting married will change anything on an emotional level for you? Believe me, it won't.

The day after you marry (if you marry, that is) I am prepared to say that you will not feel any differently.
Be realistic here. Why should you? You're already living together as a couple, why on earth would getting wed change anything for you on an emotional level?

You'll have the novelty of being wed, but it wears off after a while.

What it will do, however, is change things on a legal/financial front.

Ask yourself this: Are you happy to be a cohabitee - a status which has no bearing in law.
Are you happy to be told that if your partner should die intestate that you, as a cohabitee, have no automatic rights over partner's estate.

If the answer is 'yes, don't care. Happy to be considered as a legal nothing in relation to my partner' (obviously JOINTLY owned property will be treated as two people who have bought a house-marriage won't matter when it comes to this) then don't get wed.
If it does matter, then consider getting married.

But please try to cut marriage down to size.

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marantha · 15/09/2010 10:03

People do not become committed to one another a micro-second after marrying (well only in a legal sense) *they are ALREADY committed BEFORE the ceremony.

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strandedatsea · 15/09/2010 12:02

Real commitment for me was having children together - that is why we got married (to make it all legally easier should anything happen to one of us). I was 4 months pregnant at our wedding.

But I think what she is saying is that she sees marriage as a commitment, even if not everyone does. For her that is the point of no return.

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Bumpsadaisie · 15/09/2010 12:46

Another angle on this.

Your relationship is not a fixed unchanging thing, but it will be influenced and changed by the decisions you take.

People who say that the making of a commitment (whether it is marriage, or just a serious chat between you in private in which you make a commitment of some sort) is irrelevant miss the point that the act of making the commitment changes the relationship, in my view for the better.

I think you will find that if you make some sort of commitment your relationship will grow deeper with that commitment - it will expand and grow to fit the commitment that you give it.

In my experience it is commitment that makes relationships strong and stops you worrying about the future - I am now so deeply bound up with my DH that I know that I will never want to leave him - it would be like trying to "leave" my mother, or my sister.

To people who say "how can you say that - you never know what the future holds", I think love is an action (which we decide to perform) as much as a feeling. Love isn't like the weather, an independent feeling over which we have no control or influence. People say "oh, I might not love him anymore" as if this is something over which the couple has no control.

Actually it is up to you as a couple to treat love as an action you DO rather than merely a feeling you FEEL, and to make sure that it keeps growing strong.

Its like nuturing a plant. You don't neglect it and then say "oh, look, fate has spoken, the plant has died!" Actually a great deal of whether the plant flourishes or not is down to you and the actions you take.

Commitment to a relationship is like feeding your plant the best mulchy organic bio-gro you can find!

As you were. Smile

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