If I get farrow and ball paint colour matched will it be the same?(34 Posts)
i am trying to find a colour for my living room. I love the f and b colours as compared to dulux but of course te paint costs a fortune. If I got do us to colour match would that be the same?
I seem to remember reading on here that their paint differs in terms of pigments or something in which case presumably only the real thing will do?
If you are having paint mixed to match a F & B colour, use a trade paint premises, as opposed to a DIY place (you know the ones), the equivalent brand of paint they use at a trade store will be better quality than the same one that goes on the mass production pallet for the DIY store, I have this information from a reliable source, and I have had at least four colours matched with F & B colours with a trade paint shop and they came out identical to the F & B sample pots. I tend to have mine mixed for furniture painting, as opposed to Emulsion for Walls (and that may be different, since it covers a larger flat area), but as I say, my colours came out great, and although it is a little more expensive than a DIY store, it's far less expensive than F & B!!
As stated, depends on the colour I think. I ordered my kitchen island in Print Room Yellow and I knew the second I saw it that it wasn't F&B - joiner confirmed it was Crown colour matched. The colour isn't 'deep' enough like the tester was. But, agree with others that if you can find a similar enough colour in a less expensive paint then that is great. There is no thrill in having really expensive paint unless you are colour obsessive
My kitchen cabinets are an F&B paint colour copy - I painted my kitchen stools myself using a pot of actual F&B and I cannot tell the difference - in fact I have touched up the cabinets with the tin where paint has chipped (THERE's a lesson against painted kitchen cabinets)
Of course it will be the same, just like sticking a BMW badge on a Kia will magically transform the quality of the product
No, it will not be the same.
Bloody bloody m' net and your "colour matching" theories. I tried it, got Dulux to attempt to match F&B for my front door and the result is hideous. So now I am going to have to spend twice as much buying a second pot of paint AND I will have to paint the damn door myself now as I'm too embarrassed to tell the decorator hate my lurid, tacky cheap 'n' nasty front door
This is my first post on mumsnet. I have recently managed to mix my own emulsion paint to match F&B by using 10 litre white, then getting a really dark/muddy 1 litre emulsion ( let you know the code if you wish) can from dulux mixing station, spooning in to get a good colour. Add cheap match pots to help to get the colour you desire and then lastly adding a match pot of the F&b paint you like to give that matt look. I have so far made up 30 litres of really cheap coloured paint from dulux white emulsion. You just have to make sure you make enough to cover the room and a little spare for touching marks later.
Before i started renovating my victorian house an interior designer friend told me to use nothing but F&B ... DP and I had our doubts but decided to try it in the lounge first (used cord) and absolutely saw what all the raving was about, we have now finished the whole house in F&B and wouldn't use anything else.
Yes its a bit more expensive, but we waited and saved a bit more to allow for the extra to get it right. Homebase sell F&B and its part of their 10% off promotion days - you can order colours and different sizes to stock and still get the 10% discount.
I use a dulux machine daily at work and have found that some F&B colours we can scan and match very well, others are nowhere near. (talking colour not 'finish' obviously! The nearest you will get is with a flat matt)
Look at for the new Valspar machines just coming into stores, apparently they match all F&B colours 100% but i've yet to have a play on one so may be wrong!
and Fwiw I would not pay full price for F&B unless I was absolutely rolling in it and had a house that suited it perfectly.
I think it's a big rip off even if the ingredients do cost a packet. And having it in some modern house in Chiswick is pretty silly. imo of course.
What I mean is, F&B is equivalent to the actual wood of a real wooden cupboard.
Dulux made to match is going to be like painting MDF to look like wood.
That's extreme and obv it's a subtle difference but that's the difference in finish I'm on about. If it makes sense.
No. Sorry, you can't...my ex is a decorator and so is my current partner (not sure how that happened but I digress)
F&B paint isn't just a colour, iyswim. It's made from weirdy materials that give it depth - a bit like if you painted a cupboard with 'brushwood', ie a basecoat then a topcoat to mimic natural wood, as opposed to having an actual wooden cupboard.
It's got layers, depth, it changes in the light.
So they could match an approximate colour, but not the same effect as you'd get with an actual F&B paint.
I know it sounds like crap but it's true - I was cynical till he explained it to me properly. I thought it was just money for old rope (isn't that one of their colours actually?)
So you'll get a similar shade but not the depth and beauty.
HTH a bit.
The finish of F&B is different. Chalky and matt.
The modern emulsion is really good for kitchen, halls and bathroom. You can wipe easily. Or wherever you think sticky fingerprints will go.
If you have a jonstones near you they will match it 100% it even says f and b colour on the can, the finish isn't the same but the finish but better quality.
Have been assured by two people I know (one of whom is a decorative paint finisher) that they can be colour matched accurately.
Best to go to go specialist paint supplier like Brewers rather than Homebase though.
Well, that's the thing, PigletJohn. I'd assumed they would be able to match any colour, especially given the success of the first set, so I was really taken aback by how far off this particular shade was.
It was one of the newer F&B colours, so I wonder whether they take a little while to add some of them to their paint range? (Not in any way implying that Dulux copies F&B colours ).
another thing - I painted my living room in F&B stone white a few years' ago (not white, actually a pale olive green). When I repainted a few years later because I was selling, I discovered the original colour had faded enormously. South facing room but worth bearing in mind
if you ever go into a Dulux Decorators centre with a paint matching machine, and look at the sample cards of the colours they can mix, you might be stunned to see how many there are. It's not like a booklet.
For example, if you look at one of the cards of pale pinks, you will find graduations that are so close that the human eye cannot distinguiish between two adjacent colours, but if you look at a card with a dozen stripes on it, you can see how the bottom stripe is different from the top one. The same holds for any other colour; they have one like a ripe tomato, one like a ripe strawberry, one like a ripe raspberry, one like a ripe cranberry, and they have deeper, weaker, brighter, paler and darker versions of each changing by tiny graduations.
Dulux said they couldn't match to the colour I wanted; with Leyland you just tell them the brand name and shade and they do the rest.
Thanks for all the replies.
I was not aware that matches are usually to the closest colour available. I thought that they somehow mixed up an identivpcle version so that may sway me a little.
I think firstly I need to work out exactly how much it would cost me to use F and B. To be honest though with dc4 on the way maybe the chalky finish would be a mistake? I was looking at the blue green type colours rather than the neutrals. I don't think I would justify the cost for a shade of White but who knows.
I just need to get a few tester pots now. That in itself is bank breaking!
I've had a few Johnstone/Leyland matches too and they've all been spot on colourwise. Obviously not the lovely chalky finish but 2 DCs, a dog and 2 cats would soon wreck it, so I'm happy with trade emulsion and extra pennies in my pocket.
I saw the F&B two page spread advert in the Sunday Times too
I had it done by Leyland and it was identical. Even magically changes colour depending on time of day .
I had an F&B colour matched by a Leyland shop and it was not remotely similar.
I had the same colour matched by Little Greene and it was a very good match.
Unfortunately the Little Greene match cost the same as the F&B itself...
Just one more from me: if you go to a paint centre for this, don't go to one which stocks F&B. If an F&B stockist is caught copying their colours they risk losing their F&B account, which is obviously more profitable to them than selling 10 litres of emulsion to you! Our local trade centre has a notice up saying they won't colourmatch F&B for this reason.
Mine was not matched up to the nearest colour.They used a pot of- i presume white [i don't really know!] and added various pigments in a special machine.They needed the f&b colour chart to do it.They also could colour match lots of different trade paints.They are a trade centre and are used by all the painters round here.I think if you go to most diy shops they will give you the colour closest to the one you want so it is not necessarily terribly acurate.
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