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Rox19 · 01/03/2015 23:58

Reception EYFS/ KS1 levels

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emmelinelucas · 02/03/2015 00:01

and..? Give us another clue, Rox !

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Rox19 · 02/03/2015 00:02

Whoops posted too soon!

Had parents evening last week and child is reading blue books and has finishes EYFS over score of 9 by Xmas and now is marked as 1b in everything.

I knew she was very bright but a bit surprised she maybe looks to be at end of year 1 standard half way through reception.

The tEscher is saying her progress is amazingly quick and she is likely
To finish yr1 work in the next few months.

It all sounded a bit of a shock and I didn't think to ask what actually happens in year 1/ moving up the school like this? Say she is a 1a by July. Then is needing mid year 2 work at the Statt of year 1.. I didn't realise children could be working over a year ahead from reception.

Anyone have any experience of this?
Please be nice I am not intending to boast and can't talk to people at school about this.Hmm

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OinkBalloon · 02/03/2015 00:06

Why can't you talk to the staff at school about this? It's their job. Naturally you will want to advocate for your dd and support her education.

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Rox19 · 02/03/2015 00:07

Well I guess I can but it's quite soon after parents evening and I guess I should have asked then.

Was just a bit shocked and didn't know what to say at the time.

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MMmomKK · 02/03/2015 01:11

Look, all it means is that you daughter is doing well. Congratulations!

EYFS has fairly gentle requirements, so a bright kid would fly through them quickly. Schools are good at differentiating work - so, say while others would be working on number bonds of 10, your daughter would be given bonds of 20, or some number even higher. And so on.

It doesn't meant that she'll not learn anything in Y1!...

If she likes reading, and it has clicked with her - she'll progress very quickly. You'll just need to make sure she has a lot of books appropriate for her level - try the library!
DD1 was Blue (ORT4) roughly in same time in YR, finished YR on ORT8. And in Y1 she was pretty much a "free reader".

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RueDeWakening · 02/03/2015 14:27

DD (now year 3) was working at year 1/2 level at the end of reception. On the whole, it's been fine, the teachers have been able to differentiate work for her and she's flying along.

The thing we've struggled most with is finding books suitable for her age AND reading ability - lots of the themes are too mature. But there are plenty out there - poetry and non-fiction are my fallbacks - and I've had a few threads on MN with lots of helpful suggestions.

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mrz · 02/03/2015 17:44

Is your child in reception? I'm confused why your child has been given a score of 9

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mrz · 02/03/2015 17:47

Sorry posted too soon
Children in reception are scored out of 3 so nit sure where the 9 has come from or the 1b as there no longer are levels ...seems very odd.

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mrz · 02/03/2015 17:47

Should add that blue book band in reception isn't at all unusual

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Rox19 · 02/03/2015 18:19

Oh I'm not in the education know-how, the teacher just said scored 1-9 and had exceeded everything and now is 1b. Reading blue band at home and orange level/ phonics stage in class.

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mrz · 02/03/2015 18:32

All very odd ... The 1-9 scale was replaced by the new 1,2,3 scores in 2012 you would expect a teacher to know.

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mrz · 03/03/2015 07:43

Is it a state school?

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Icimoi · 03/03/2015 08:33

Not that odd, mrz. The teacher may simply find it useful to use the 1-9 scale for her own purposes.

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mrz · 03/03/2015 16:52

Very odd that a teacher would choose to make up their own scale when by law they must report to parents using profile scales.

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TeacupTravels · 03/03/2015 17:11

Rather than "finish yr 1 work" I'd hope they'd go trhough yr1 doing all the topics and themes, but just in more depth when they get to them.

My yr1 child was one of the brilliant readers in foundation year, but I'm v happy that when asked to "write a story about a jar with dust in it" or whatever task it was they were given she's encouraged to do a bit more than someone struggling with writing for example. I certainly wouldnt want her to whizz through the topics.

Do you mean finish yr 1 in terms of reading? My daughter and her best friend are nearly off the scheme in yr 1, but the trouble is finding good books that have appropriate themes. Either way I'm just happy she's now reading for pleasure. It doesn't mean she doesn't do the yr 1 victorian topic or pets topic or whatever with her yr 1 class.

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mrz · 03/03/2015 17:14

I think OPs child is in reception

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TeacupTravels · 03/03/2015 17:31

I saw - but her OP said that her teacher said she'd "finish yr 1 work in the next few months". That would be quite odd in reception wouldn't it so was asking what she meant by that.

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mrz · 03/03/2015 17:52

The whole scenario sounds very strange

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Rox19 · 03/03/2015 21:36

Yes she is in reception
What is strange mrz I don't understand, there is no secret agenda, it is useful
To hear the opinions of others with older children who were similar.

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Micksy · 03/03/2015 22:14

My daughter's school also had a sheet with scores 1-9 across the eyfs areas when I had her last parent's evening. I'm aware that it's scored emerging, expected and exceeding these days, but the categories themselves seemed up to date. Obviously it's not that uncommon to use as an interim assessment system.

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mrz · 04/03/2015 06:35

What's strange is that this teacher appears to be using the old assessment scales which have totally different expectations to the current (yes they would be relevant to much older children assessed under the previous system but not children who are currently in reception).
It's strange that this teacher is not following the statutory requirements when assessing in reception.
I would question what 1B actually means to this teacher as the old National Curriculum level 1B is now below year 1 expectations.

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mrz · 04/03/2015 06:41

It's very strange to use the old 1-9 statements as they no longer reflect current curriculum expectations Micksy. The scale 1-9 related to the previous 127 profile statements which have been reduced to 17.
It is usual for schools to assess using development matters and report the age in months the child is working at.

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mrz · 04/03/2015 07:44

117 profile statements not 127 (fat fingers)

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poppy70 · 04/03/2015 08:36

Some Schoo!s merely adapt old systems to the new year requirements imposed which states what you have to cover by the end of the key stage. As in Keeping levels - calling it levels and just including the new requirements. If they are doing 25% it is low or a c, 50-60% it is middle or b and all of it is an a. I have also been to federation meetings where for things like humanities the heads have said we aren't changing - just adapt the topic to the skills and of course the new nc is not about skills. But from a lot that I have seen schools, with exception of maths, seem to be doing whatever they like right now. It is kind of sad because it seems to me the education you get will be defined by the school you go to. As long as they do well in year 6 SATs no one cares and schools can do it anyway they want which means schools need to keep ahead of the latest research and ignore the government. The research is better informed and the government through there own endeavours are making themselves obsolete. It is all results based now. No one cares how you get there.

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mrz · 04/03/2015 17:13

Then some schools are failing to teach the statutory curriculum and follow the statutory assessment ... Very strange

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