what level should a year 1 child get at the end of the year...

(25 Posts)
nikkisss Tue 09-Jul-13 12:23:26

what level should a year 1 child get (roughly) at the end of the year at reading having in consideration that that child is a free reader and if that matters got 40/40 on phonics screening check?

Periwinkle007 Tue 09-Jul-13 12:30:10

1b is the average isn't it? reading wise would depend on the school's reading policy, free reader means different things and literacy level might not match reading band as it depends on their guided reading level and all the other skills that go with it.

Redlocks30 Tue 09-Jul-13 13:01:54

I agree, 1b would be the expected level. Free reader isn't terribly helpful as it could mean anything; my 3b readers in y2 are still directed to choose from a certain section of the library so aren't totally 'free' readers.

What level have they been given? Do you not agree with it?

They could be anything from a level 1 upwards!

Fuzzymum1 Tue 09-Jul-13 13:03:26

1b or 1a is the expected (not average) level for them to be on track for a 2b (expected at end of year 2)

As a free reader, assuming comprehension and all associated skills are regularly demonstrated they would likely be a level 3. Lime level loosely equates to level 3c

Periwinkle007 Tue 09-Jul-13 13:05:25

ah expected level is 1b, ok sorry for misleading

nikkisss Tue 09-Jul-13 13:13:52

so is 1b the expected level for year 1 or 1a?thanks

Tiggles Tue 09-Jul-13 13:32:21

1b is expected for year 1
some schools say their expected is 1a, but this is a school expectation not a national one.
I believe if your child is making the expected progression rate, then to get a level 3c in their KS1 SATS then they would need to be 2c in year 1.

caffeinated Tue 09-Jul-13 13:35:23

Our school 1a is expected level at end of year one. 2c for the higher achievers.

nikkisss Tue 09-Jul-13 13:41:33

Thanks LittleMissGreen, I was confused about the national level as some people say it's 1a and not 1b and cannot really find much about this online

Galena Tue 09-Jul-13 15:15:26

Expected progress is 1 level in 2 years. This equates to 1 or 2 sublevels per year. Therefore to be on track for a 2b by end of y2 you would want children to be 1a or 2c by end of y1.

itsnothingoriginal Tue 09-Jul-13 16:15:35

My dd at 3c and is free reader etc. Our school now aims for 1a in all areas by end yr 1. Our school also like to see progress of 3 sub levels per yr i.e 1c to 1a.

Galena Tue 09-Jul-13 16:23:02

1c to 1a is 2 sublevels of progress. 3 sublevels is 1 whole level so 1c to 2c

Tiggles Tue 09-Jul-13 16:28:54

In KS1 there should be one level of progress e.g. 1b to 2b a year.
There should be 2 full levels across a key stage.
In KS1 there are only 2 years, hence a level a year.
In KS2 there are 4 years to move the 2 levels, so only sublevels of movement per year.

itsnothingoriginal Tue 09-Jul-13 16:40:34

Yes sorry that should read 3 APS and not sub levels of progress...

mamaslatts Tue 09-Jul-13 17:25:30

Can anyone tell me where all these levels are coming from? I have been given end of year 1 results of 2c in reading and literacy and 1a in writing.
ta v. much

TeamSouthfields Tue 09-Jul-13 17:30:20

Mine are 1b and 3a.... So very different, just about to finish year 1 ...

quip Tue 09-Jul-13 17:34:12

I have a free reader who got 40 on phonics whp is 2c writing, 2b reading and 3 maths

Redlocks30 Tue 09-Jul-13 17:50:53

Expected progress is 1 level in 2 years. This equates to 1 or 2 sublevels per year. Therefore to be on track for a 2b by end of y2 you would want children to be 1a or 2c by end of y1

Galena, this is only correct in KS2. Expected progress in KS1 (like KS2) is two whole levels which means moving up 3 sublevels (one whole level) in y1 and 3 sublevels in y2.

In KS2, expected progress would again be 2 whole levels throughout the key stage but as the key stage is spread over 4 years instead of two, that works out as 1-2 sub levels per year.

Galena Tue 09-Jul-13 18:03:27

Thanks. I was a junior teacher, so never really thought about fewer years in KS1...

mrz Tue 09-Jul-13 18:09:46

There isn't an official expected level for any year groups except Y2 & Y6. Most schools base it on the level the child started the year. As said already the expectation is that most children will make 2 whole levels progress over a key stage and most children will be level 2 (note not a, b or c just 2) at the end of Key Stage 1.

Not got Y1 DD report yet
But
She was 2c reading in February and I am not expecting it to change because they haven't tested her since. hmm
I think she got 40/40 on phonics test but that is only her word on it.

She is a free reader which at our school means on free choice day she gets to choose whatever she likes. But she also has a scheme book weekly which is level white / lime pointless as she hates them with a passion, doesn't read them and the free choice book is way way harder

From what you say, if your child has similar levels but got a 1a or 1b, I would be asking teacher what aspects needed work ie comprehension or pronounciation etc.

TheBuskersDog Tue 09-Jul-13 21:16:52

quip is your child identified as Gifted and Talented at maths? Level 3 at the end of year 1 is pretty rare.

quip Tue 09-Jul-13 21:30:12

buskers yes, he is identified as g and t in maths. smile

mamaslatts Wed 10-Jul-13 09:44:00

Hi thanks all, just read back and meant he is 2c in reading and maths and 1a in literacy. Seems this is about right except literacy where he is a little behind. Parents evening tonight so will ask the teacher about it.

nikkisss Wed 10-Jul-13 22:32:02

thanks for all your answers. I am not particularly happy with my son's reading level, since reception I felt school was failing him, according to Ofsted the school isn't very good... to start with I didn't think this would be a problem but it definitely is. Wonder if anyone ever changed schools and if the results changed etc?

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