Wet play...film again!

(32 Posts)
RaisinBoys Tue 22-Jan-13 16:34:52

Am I the only one who has a DC sick of wet play=film?

Perfectly good library that could be opened up for some lunchtime reading, plenty of board games, laptops, ipads and PC's, 2 large halls for indoor games...

Yet again it's choice of Spongebob or HH, for Y5's???

And, yes I know that teachers need a lunch break too but there is a long list of CRB parent volunteers who could be utilised for wet play cover, couldn't they?

Allthesanityinme Fri 25-Jan-13 18:04:22

Raisinboys and Wellthen, calm down or you will force me to do something that I don't particularly want to do,

SUBJECT YOU TO SPONGEBOB

In the words of the late great Michael Winner, calm down dears its only WET PLAY! grin

Wellthen Fri 25-Jan-13 17:46:19

you have extrapolated this into an assessment of my parenting...This has not been discussed with my DS, who incidentally is well able to amuse himself or be contentedly bored Yes I know. Hence why I said "I'm not saying you have said anything of the sort to your son"

What reaction? - Erm, this one - He shouldn't have to sit in the damn corridor because there is no alternative to the crap film HE'S ALREADY SEEN AT LEAST 3 TIMES AT SCHOOL IN RECENT MONTHS. As I say, I am sure you do not let on to your DC that you feel this way. But in general I disagree with this attitude (although agree with you that he shouldnt have to sit in a corridor).

I DO work in a school, not this school, and we trust our DC to use the library and other resources responsibly - especially y5 & y6 - and do you know what? THEY DO!!! Excellent. Good for you. Those children should be proud. Doesn't really help those who dont work with children like that though. Schools make their choices based on their own children, knowing what they can handle. You say you trust the children - that trust must have been earnt. In many schools it hasnt and I dont believe lunchtime with untrained and (IMHO) badly paid staff is the time to start testing it.

I think it is you who needs to let go. What with the caps lock, 'ffs', 'ludicrous' and the bolding of parts other than quotes...I'm pretty sure you're putting a lot more emotion into this than I am.

alittleteapot Thu 24-Jan-13 00:14:32

I'm with you Raisin. Last July dcs had films for wet play every day for a week, and what's worse they didn't even get to see the film to the end! I wouldn't mind once in a while but it rains a lot more than that. I would much rather someone got them dancing the polka!

RaisinBoys Thu 24-Jan-13 00:09:56

Wellthen I think it is you who needs to let go. Ffs I made a comment that my DS is sick of crap films for wet play and you have extrapolated this into an assessment of my parenting.

"I think your reaction encourages a bad feeling in some children " What reaction?
I am entitled to believe that school could provide options for wet play. This has not been discussed with my DS, who incidentally is well able to amuse himself or be contentedly bored. He shouldn't have to sit in the damn corridor because there is no alternative to the crap film HE'S ALREADY SEEN AT LEAST 3 TIMES AT SCHOOL IN RECENT MONTHS.

I DO work in a school, not this school, and we trust our DC to use the library and other resources responsibly - especially y5 & y6 - and do you know what? THEY DO!!!

The point of me saying 'get over it' was that if this really worries you then that is concerning. You need to let go a little.
Oh please! World hunger "really worries" me, the abuse of children "really worries" me, the fact that graduates can't get a job "really worries" me.

The wet play issue (and your frankly ludicrous response to my OP) merely irritate.

bubbles1231 Wed 23-Jan-13 20:16:37

Scotland and no wet play here (unless it's a cloudburst). Primary School follows a Scandinavian principle that children should go out as much as possible. There are various shelters around the playground. My children go with a change of socks at the least, and wellies and waterproof trousers if it's bad.
In winter they can take sledges as there's an excellent slope on the grassy area.

RillaBlythe Wed 23-Jan-13 20:10:43

My dd spends wet play in the corridor outside the hall because the films are too scary for her. I suppose eventually she will toughen up & be able to cope with toy story but right now she hates wet play. The only option is to be in the hall with the rest of the school.

Wellthen Wed 23-Jan-13 20:06:28

in there sorry not their. I never made mistakes like that before I taught, the children's mistakes are honestly catching!

Wellthen Wed 23-Jan-13 20:05:12

1. Its a wet play time. A small fraction of his day. He'll get over it. They don't happen as often as people make out.

2. I think your reaction encourages a bad feeling in some children - this idea that if anything is not to their liking then it should be changed. I'm not saying you have said anything of the sort to your son but you seem to be making out that bordom will harm him in some way. Boredom in lessons is different because it prevents them from learning. But the occasionaly not so fun play is probably quite good for them - life can be quite boring!

3. I always find it interesting when people who don't work in schools suggest other activities they could do. Library - who's responsibility is it to make sure books are treated correctly and put away? Who will deal with the irrate librarian or the poor person who has to do a lesson in their after wet play? Dancing or organised sports - by who? Which MSA are well trained enough for this. Then there's the fact children need some part of their day which is not spent being organised by adults! Computers - again who is well trained enough? If a 5 year old plays a shoot-em-up game and has nightmares who's fault is that? Schools filters are strict but not so strict that they can be completely used without supervision and I just dont think MSAs should take that level of responsibility.

I agree that a babyish film as the ONLY option is far from ideal and is going to result in bored, annoyed and fidgity children. Most schools as many posters have said have playtime boxes. We have a a film on in the hall, an area for reading or drawing and an area for building or board games.

The point of me saying 'get over it' was that if this really worries you then that is concerning. You need to let go a little.

2kidsintow Wed 23-Jan-13 18:36:59

The issue is often of supervision - staff often take it in turns to supervise at playtime and others then use the time to grab a quick break and/or get stuff ready for the next day. You can't leave your children unattended in your classroom, so for some the answer is to put several classes together and the easiest way to do that without chaos is a film.

My class have several things that I've taken in that my own kids have outgrown - lego, knex, building blocks etc. I'll often choose to skip the breaktime and stay in class with my children. Yes, I don't get a cuppa or the chance for a loo break, but it is worth it in terms of better behaviour.

mathanxiety Wed 23-Jan-13 01:25:55

OP, fwiw, I think the same old films shown over and over is a bit of a weak offering from the school. Organised games (or even dancing smile) are not really that hard to get started, depending on the sort of space available. We were lucky(?) enough to have an assembly hall large enough to get a bit of speed up for polka-ing. Come to think of it, we did some Irish ceili dancing too from time to time, but the polka and mazurka were definitely where Sister F.X's heart were... If one Irish nun could entertain and wear out about 120 children every wet lunchtime (i.e. every second day) for about 8 years with the technology then available, then I think in this day and age it really must be possible to give today's students a run for their money.

It does seem a shame to see a library and all that equipment going to waste, but the issue may be teaching staff entitled to a lunch break, not enough experience among the lunch staff of organising children and sharing equipment and activities equitably, or making sure computers are being used properly, etc.

RaisinBoys Wed 23-Jan-13 00:09:12

Wellthen & Cansu

What should I "get over" exactly?

I have a view on wet play that differs to yours. But crucially it is my DC's opinion on it that I'm interested in and he is bored rigid of films every wet play. And considering the amount of rain we've had over the last 12 months that is an awful lot of wet play time.

But thanks anyway for your unhelpful, unenlightening, negative responses.

At least mathsanxiety made me laugh.

Never ceases to amaze me the need some people have to comment negatively on posts that they consider unimportant...

teacherwith2kids Tue 22-Jan-13 20:56:41

Never worked in a school where films / DVDs were used for wet play. Board games, paper and pens, an awful lot of sticky tape, books and general chat seemed to be the order of the day today... (very excitingly icy playground, despite best attempts to grit and clear it - they were out in the snow yesterday but the ice was a different beast entirely. Saw 5 children fall over just walking across the playground into school, and they had sensible shoes / wellies on)

alanyoung Tue 22-Jan-13 20:50:38

RaisinBoys is ablsolutely right. You know what they say:

In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not!

LynetteScavo Tue 22-Jan-13 20:43:46

I loved Whizzer and Chips at that age. Way better than hangman. envy

amistillsexy Tue 22-Jan-13 19:56:16

I remember haaving a whole box FULL of Whizzer and Chips comics in my classroom when I was in Y5/6.

I lived for wet play grin

Thatssofunny Tue 22-Jan-13 19:51:46

without the apostrophe....goodness, I talked too much about that today...confused brain is turning to mush...

Thatssofunny Tue 22-Jan-13 19:50:13

My Year 5s had wet play (personally, I'd send them outside with a coat, hat and gloves on...).
Mine play with the Lego, read in the library or reading corner, play Tops Trumps, doodle on my mini-whiteboards, create some rather random fantasy football/cricket pitches and keep scores (don't ask me what they are doing with it, because I don't quite understand it), draw, play some sort of cup game (which is incredibly annoying), dance about in the hall,...and one of them made a model of one of the creatures from "War of the Worlds" out of paper today.
I've never put a DVD on for wet play. It's not practical at all, with so many children wanting to do different things. Last time I put a DVD on, was the lesson before the Christmas holidays.
Are you sure there was nothing else to do? Teacher's aren't generally "on duty" during lunchtime, so it should be up to the lunchtime staff to sort that. However, mine just get the stuff out and get on with it. The adults on duty usually just need to tell mine not to run around in the classroom.

Littlefish Tue 22-Jan-13 19:07:54

Our PTA funded a box of wet play equipment for every class. Each Teqcher suggested a range of things like Lego, felt pens, jigsaws etc. and the PTA provided them, and replace anything in them which runs out.

Having said that, we very rarely have wet play - the children are out in all weathers. The parents are all aware of this!

LynetteScavo Tue 22-Jan-13 19:04:03

When I was at school the only thing we ever did during wet play was play hangman.

We would have wet ourselves if we got to watch TV. grin

cansu Tue 22-Jan-13 18:45:27

Love your response wells hen. I guess I was kind of thinking that a bit...

Wellthen Tue 22-Jan-13 18:43:13

A CRB does not mean you take responsibility. Only paid members of staff are allowed to be solely in charge of the children. So no, parents cannot cover wet play.

But my main point would be this: Oh my GOD please get over it.

helpyourself Tue 22-Jan-13 18:42:11

<not helpful> but grin mathanxiety

mathanxiety Tue 22-Jan-13 18:39:35

We used to dance the polka in the assembly hall back when I was a girl. One of the nuns used to set up a record player and play her collection of polka music. This was in Dublin, so we did a lot of polkas and other folk dances from central Europe. We were allowed to take off our jumpers [what excitement] as it was quite a workout.

<not helpful>

LynetteScavo Tue 22-Jan-13 18:27:05

But it will be the lunchtime supervisors supervising the DC at lunch time - not the teachers, so there should be no need for parents to go in, but I'm sure you can suggest the idea to the head.

At my DCs school the PTA gave each class a wet play box. Full of toys educational items they aren't allowed at any other time, so they seem really exciting. Would your school consider this?

Maybe you could donate some educational DVDs to make a change from spongebob and hh?

RaisinBoys Tue 22-Jan-13 18:21:30

I have nothing against films - i just don't think they should be the default option for wet play. Particularly as screen based technologies are (rightly) a large part of a child's learning. Much use is made of ipads, laptops and PC's.

A break from the screen at lunchtime would be good, imo.

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