problems on the school run - girls falling out - what to do? (sorry - long)

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DeadTall Thu 18-Oct-12 09:55:01

I'm sitting here in tears with worry about my DD age 10. I've just had the mother of one DD's best friends on my doorstep saying that my daughter said 'something' to another girl (A) on the walk to school, which upset A so much that she didn't want to talk to DD or walk with her. A walked off in tears with her elder sister. DD & A haven't really got on very well in the past, they are quite different personalities.

The message that came through from the mother who came to see me is that she doesn't want my daughter walking to school with her daughter & A any more. She said this is because there have been 'niggles' in the car, so I think she's had enough of the disagreements they have (she gives DD a lift part of the way home a few times a week, which is entirely up to her, I had nothing to do with the arrangement & DD & I were quite happy for DD to walk the last part on her own). She asked me whether I was happy with DD walking to school on her ow... which she could do, but I think she would be very upset & I don't like to think of her walking by herself at only 10 years old (we have a 3-tier school system so they walk from 9 years).

DD has had various different arrangements over the last year & a half, which seem to break down due to various disagreements. The first arrangement was OK until she & the one other girl fell out, then they both decided to walk in a big group with 4 others, but then one of the other girls (B) told DD that she hadn't 'asked permission' from B's mother to walk with them! That, & problems with 'so & so walking off' or 'they talk about things I'm not interested in all the way home', led to her changing arrangements again to the current one.

I really don't want to get involved with the mothers, as I would much prefer DD to sort this out herself with her friends, but I feel pressurised to speak to A's mum. The mother who turned up this morning said that A's mum will be worried "all day" about whether her daughter will be "scared" that DD is going to be waiting at the school gates to walk home with her hmm.

DH is quite hard on DD & thinks she is rubbish at relationships with other girls, I'm softer on her & think it's all part of growing up, but this sort of thing makes me worry that she's the problem here, & that other parents think that too, which really upsets me. DD's fine at home - generally kind, helpful, occasionally tearful & stroppy like most pre-teens, whenever she has friends over they seem fine together and giggle a lot etc. What do I do?

I feel like I'm being told to resolve this before tomorrow morning as the mother who came to see me wants this sorted out before the school run. Do I speak to A's mother? How can I tell DD that she's no longer wanted?

bumpybecky Wed 24-Oct-12 22:30:24

we've got 3 tier system here too and I agree it makes the yr 5 and 6s grow up a bit too fast sad

I'm glad things seem to have got a bit better this week smile if things do start getting tricky again I'd think seriously about contacting the school, either form tutor or if they're not all in the same form try the head of year. It does sound like it's the mothers with the problem, but an assembly / pshce (or whatever your school calls it) on being good friends and thinking about other people's feelings might help.

Good luck DT we live in Scotland and I think children out in the sticks here can get to take their time growing up (dd will be 12 before she starts secondary, and ds has been at their school since he was 3, with the nursery attached to the school). I think having older siblings makes some kids grow up quicker too.

Glad to hear your dd is having a better week, she is learning some tough lessons about adult behaviour to say the least. I agree about the ups & downs of friendships - it is a tricky line to tread, especially with the adults negative interference !

mrsfuzzy Thu 25-Oct-12 11:48:56

deadtall, really pleased for you and dd, great news, keep us posted!

DeadTall Thu 25-Oct-12 17:05:31

Today's question...(sorry!)

DD had no-one to walk home with today, when she bumped into 2 girls she used to walk with, they told her they weren't allowed to walk with her because she doesn't have permission from their mums. DD wants to know why she has to have permission, why she hasn't got this, & has asked me to ask one of the mothers. I know the mothers quite well, for about 5 years, and socialise with both of them occasionally. I get on fine with both of them.

Would you ask? If so, how would you phrase the question?

mrsfuzzy Thu 25-Oct-12 17:26:50

i would ask in a nice way "is there a problem with them walking together? the girls seem to have stopped, i was wondering why that might be as my dd is a bit upset about it, the girls seem to think they need permission to walk with other children, i know it sounds silly but that's kids for you," well, you get the general idea and see what their response is. one of two things will happen they will either say they can't walk together full stop and not give a reason, they have the problem not you, or they will feel rather silly because you are making light of the situation and deny all knowledg of ever saying such a thing. whatever happens i'd keep it light and friendly. good luck.

bumpybecky Thu 25-Oct-12 18:01:12

exactly what mrsfuzzy said

only thing I'd add is to try and ask the Mum's individually and face to face, stand a better chance of getting the truth that way I think

good luck smile

Cahoots Thu 25-Oct-12 21:19:45

MrsFuzzy's plan sounds good to me. It is not confrontational and makes it cler that your daughter is upset.
I would never have told my DD's who and who not to walk with. confused. Perhaps you could also mention that you would feel that it would be safer for your DD to walk with friends.
Have you contacted the school about this yet? I would write down everything that has happened before you do then you won't forget anything. you only needto do that if you have a forgetful brain like mine smile

DeadTall Thu 25-Oct-12 23:44:44

Me too, thanks again mrsfuzzy thanks

I chickened out today, twice, but will try again. I'm going to speak to her form tutor after half term (last day before the break tomorrow smile) so hopefully they can keep an eye on things.

nooka Fri 26-Oct-12 06:14:22

We've had a lot of problems this year with dd's relationships with her friends that started off with issues about who walks to school with who, and has ended up with serious parental involvement and three sets of parents telling their girls not to associate with one of the other girls.

It all got really quite nasty and is very sad as they all used to be good friends, and I wouldn't usually expect to get involved (they are 12 so really should be able to sort this sort of thing out between them).

I would go in to school and ask if there is some underlying problem as there seems to be a bit of a pattern of falling out with other girls.

ShaynePunim Fri 26-Oct-12 09:28:01

Good luck...I know it's hard but I hope you'll muster the courage. I'm the chickening-out type too in that sort of situation so I completely understand.

Go on, we'll think of you and, in the words of Gloria form Modern Family, we'll be the wind in your back and not the spit in your face. ;)

mrsfuzzy Sat 27-Oct-12 10:52:01

dead tall , everyone feels they can't deal with some things, it's good that it's have term so the situation has time to calm down and you can get your thoughts together, you'll be fine, thinking of you. thanks for the flowers, that's kind of you.

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