Birth registration

(33 Posts)
Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 16:51:28

After some advice from anyone who's baby was born in Warrington.
At the time of birth me & baby's mum weren't together/married 2012
Ex partners father was an interfering pain in the bum who controlled ex's life he didn't even ring me till 6 hours after our son was born. He told ex he had but I'd not answered. Anyway he tried his best to keep me at arms length. My question is does anyone know when Warrington hospital stopped registering births? As he told me it was done automatically by hospital.& we didn't need to go and register it at registry office? Any help much appreciated 😀

JinkxMonsoon Sat 18-Jun-16 17:11:21

Why do you ask? You mean your ex partner's father told you that the birth was already registered at the hospital, meaning there was no opportunity for you to attend and get your name on the birth certificate?

Pinkheart5915 Sat 18-Jun-16 17:17:31

So you didn't go along to register the birth? So your not named on the birth certificate ? You can add your name to the certificate if the mum agrees at any time I think.

I've never heard of hospitals registering births, but then I've only had children in the last few years so maybe you use to be able to. Can you contact the hospital in question and ask when they stopped doing it?

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 17:21:04

No my name is on birth certificate think they were lying & someone else forged my signature Because I'm sure by then u had to physically attend registry off, after something somebody said the other day.

meditrina Sat 18-Jun-16 17:22:17

Hospitals don't register births.

Occasionally, a registrar will visit a hospital and register births there (this was common practice in the 1950s, but has almost totally died out).

If you were not married at the time of the DC's birth, and were not present at the registration (wherever it occurred) then you cannot have been put on the birth certificate.

PerspicaciaTick Sat 18-Jun-16 17:22:43

Are you saying that you weren't on the original birth certificate, but that you have now married the mother of your baby?
Take a look at this link www.gov.uk/adding-fathers-name-birth-certificate for getting your name on the certificate.
Or call Warrington Registrars Office for advice - they will also be able to tell you when/if the hospital stopped registering births.
www.warrington.gov.uk/info/201091/births_deaths_marriage/1244/warrington_register_office

PerspicaciaTick Sat 18-Jun-16 17:26:29

Sorry x-post with your update OP. I'm pretty sure that unmarried fathers have had to be present at the registration of their child's birth since the end of 2003 (when my DC was born).

SaveSomeSpendSome Sat 18-Jun-16 17:26:48

My daughter was born in warrington in 2012.

You cannot register the birth at warrington hospital. You have to make an appointment at the register office on museum street in warrington after the birth.

If you were not married to the mother at the time of birth then you would of NOT been able to go on the birth certificate. Have you actually seen the birth certificate?

Sparklesilverglitter Sat 18-Jun-16 17:29:39

I'm pretty sure If not married the father has to attend the registration.

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 17:32:50

Yes I have a copy of it I am on

2nds Sat 18-Jun-16 17:34:08

You will not be on the birth certificate because you and she were not married at the time and because you were not at the registration. You have been told a pack of lies and it doesn't matter where a baby is born in the UK, it's the same all over the UK.

You have a lot of talking to do with the child's mother, no registrar would allow a signature to be forged onto such a document. Do you believe her dad posed as you to register the birth? If he has done this this is illegal.

2nds Sat 18-Jun-16 17:36:10

So both your wife and your father in law have falsified an important legal document?

caroldecker Sat 18-Jun-16 17:36:59

Not sure if you want to be on it or not. It is not possible to add a father's name on the certificate if unmarried unless he is present.
If you were not present then someone pretended to be you and it is fraud.
However, being named gives you PR, whilst not being named does not give you any advantage, you're still liable for child support as the father whether on the cert or not.

Sparklesilverglitter Sat 18-Jun-16 17:38:23

It certainly sounds like it doesn't it 2nds as the OP can not be named on a birth certificate if you wasn't present unless you was married

Sparklesilverglitter Sat 18-Jun-16 17:38:56

You=he

GlacindaTheTroll Sat 18-Jun-16 17:40:00

Unmarried fathers who cannot physically attend a registry office can be entered on birth certificates if they make a legal declaration (can't remember the proper name for it, but it's used when fathers are eg on active service with the military, in prison or bed-bound).

But presumably this didn't happen in your case either.

Now, if someone impersonated you, there is clearly a heap of issues going on.

But in terms of the birth certificate itself, does it matter how you came to be on it? I am assuming here that you have no doubts about paternity.

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 18:04:44

I do think he posed as me. Me & mum are about to get divorced as I caught her having an affair with her boss, so am very hurt, she denies it still even though her behaviour has changed beyond all recognition and I found txt son her phone pretty graphic texts at that

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 20:58:41

Thanks for all the help guys was pretty sure I was right.

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 21:01:07

Yes it matters how I came to be on it. No doubt about paternity. It might be silly but it was my 1st born so have been denied something special

TeaBelle Sat 18-Jun-16 21:01:49

We had to take ID including our passports and marriage certificate when we registered dad's birth so forging details would have been very difficult

PerspicaciaTick Sat 18-Jun-16 21:02:13

Just be careful that any action you take aimed at W and FiL won't unintentionally damage your future relationship with your DD. Good luck.

caroldecker Sat 18-Jun-16 21:17:45

What have you been denied, a trip to the registry office? Not a great day out.

SaveSomeSpendSome Sat 18-Jun-16 21:22:28

I think they have done you a favour by putting you on the birth certificate.

They have given you parental responsibility which you cant be stripped from.

They have saved you a court battle to get parental responsibility so therefore saving you stress and money.

You will get a say in everything to do with your child from schools to stopping her from taking your child abroad.

ozymandiusking Sat 18-Jun-16 21:35:06

My babies were registered at the hospital where they were born, by the registrar. This was 1970 and 1974. I don't know when this ended though.

Hurtdad Sat 18-Jun-16 22:19:50

That's not the point caroldecker

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