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My ex has not pay maintenance for many years and fled from the court orders twice last 12 months ago. As it is the anniversary of a year of not paying it spurred me to have a look how these fathers get out of paying maintenance!

It took me 3 minutes to find an internet site where a father asks

What is the best way to get out of paying CSA?

The first response....

kill her

Two simple words...first response!

there were several others saying to kill the mother too, one saying 'it's the only way!'



I thought my ex was a rather unique Psychopathic Narcissist who left petrol bomb warnings and kicking my door in when he received a court letter or anything! I was wrong! I am so not alone and so this is the easy way for some sick bastards to get out of paying for their children!

Wonder if the deadbeat who wrote kill her was my ex?

I heard of a case where the XH paid phenomenal amounts into a pension scheme to avoid CSA. Nasty little man.

Paypal is another way according to this site!

It doesn't seem too difficult to avoid paying without the need for murder - my ex has paid less than £300 in seven years...I am still alive for now.

Being self employed and claiming to only earn £90 a week seems to be a common thing.

On the plus side, if the "only way" to avoid the CSA is to bump off the ex (and that would be silly as then NRP would have to look after the dc and be responsible for all of their expenses) it must mean the CSA are a bit less shit than they used to be?

Sorry, sea, I know your situation is horrific, but most people who say "kill the ex" aren't going to mean it. Your ex is an exceptional tosser.

You can get away without paying anything by simply ignoring any correspondence from the CSA and pretending to be someone else when they phone.

or you can claim to be unemployed and work cash in hand, that's very popular.

Goralka's method also works very well!

My ex became self employed and is the only self employed plumber in Guildford (expensive part of the country) to live in a large house with a large mortgage and yet have a net income of £146 per week. Shame we aren't on better terms as most plumbers I know charge £200 a day.

bisjo

There are many self employed plumbers in Guildford as i run a national plumbing company and i contract work out to many self employed plumbers in that area.

I think bisjo's point was more about the large house etc on £146 a week; I'm sure most s/e plumbers earn more than that.

Or you can do what my ex did which was to bounce between employment and benefits faster than the CSA could keep up.

Revel if you do contract out work where plumbers earn net £146 please pm me as in my area (not a million miles from Guildford) the going rate charged is £200 a day. If I can find one that charges £45 a day (net plus tax estimate) I would find jobs for them to do! This includes bathrooms etc not just leaky taps.

Maybe now you can see my point?

The honest plumbers I know earn £50,000+ pa.

Can I say its not just fathers who get out of paying CSA? My SS's birthmum has never paid a penny and doesn't even see them! She gets out of it by never working a day in her life,having more kids by various dads then dumping those kids on the new dads too. She has now found a new idiot man who pays everything for her as she can now longer claim benefits due to commiting fraud.

<retrains as plumber>

OldLady it's tempting isn't it?! He used to do a very well paid job and his lifestyle hasn't changed at all since making the career change so I imagine that he earns more than the figure I gave for the honest ones I know.

Oooh I have one: claim benefits and do work overseas It's worked a treat for wankstain XP

My ex has used a combination of QueenofFarkingEverything and Snorbs methods. They seem to have worked a treat. For him.

My EX P was paying the CSA through an attachment of earnings order and it took 4 years to pass those payments on to me because it was a manual payments system. They told me he wasn't paying but I saw the wage slips with deductions and his company showed me their payments to him. Then it was ok for about a year and started again this year 4 months no payment. I ended u offering him £15 a month deduction to pay straight in my bank and told CSA to shove it. They lie!

Yes my ex has gone down the self employed route and apparently earns less than £5 per week.

What annoys me most is that exh and his wife are minted. They have 2 dcs together (which he obviously can afford) his wife has got an extremely well paid job that comes with a house and all bills are inclusive, they also have their own house which they rent out.
And just to add insult to injury he always manages to buy DC's an expensive present at Christmas but he can't possibly afford to pay a penny towards the important stuff like school uniforms, shoes etc

Should add in the moving abroad one too - I've just become another statistic of not receiving CM due to that.

mampam, I have a similar situation, XP has a full-time job, his own house, can afford all sorts of fancy xmas and birthday presents for DS, plus running his car. Does he pay maintenance? Does he bollocks...