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Cod - would you let this guy of? 31 points on license and NO ban!!!

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Piffle · 09/02/2006 18:02

man has escaped a driving ban - despite racking up 31 points on his licence.

Jeffrey Englander, from Prestwich, Greater Manchester, picked up the points for a range of offences including speeding.

But magistrates decided not to ban him because it would have caused him financial hardship.

The 60-year-old salesman said: "I pleaded hardship and had a fantastic magistrate who let me off. I couldn't believe it.

"I was very apologetic. You have to be humble and the more they can see you are sorry, the more chance you have of getting off."
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Englander reached 12 points in January 2003, escaping a ban after saying his work and family would suffer.

He was back in court later that year after accruing an additional 19 points, but magistrates allowed him to keep his licence after he cited emotional problems.

His latest appearance at Salford Magistrates' Court came after he failed to produce his insurance documents and licence.

He avoided the statutory eight points for the offence because of an administrative error.

His escape from a driving ban has been slammed by road safety campaigners.

A spokesman for Brake said: "The 'exceptional hardship' Mr Englander would face if he lost his licence would be incomparable to a family's loss if his continued dangerous driving caused a fatality."

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Marina · 09/02/2006 18:03

Don't show this to Miaou
Cod, how did he get away with it?

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Sallystrawberry · 09/02/2006 18:04

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mummytosteven · 09/02/2006 18:04

I really don't understand this - I thought you could only use exceptional hardship grounds once to escape a ban. The crucial difference between this and Mr. Miaous case is of course that no alcohol was involved. Have a sneaking feeling I was at school with this guy's daughter

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Marina · 09/02/2006 18:05

Has anyone heard from Miaou? Wasn't it all due in court today?

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Marina · 09/02/2006 18:06

I can see that distinction legally MTS of course (and am very anti d-d myself) but you have to look at the two examples and ask yourself which man posed a worse threat to safety at the time of arrest and which still does...

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mummytosteven · 09/02/2006 18:06

she's posted elsewhere Marina - 18 month ban, £300 fine (fine lower than expected £500)

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Marina · 09/02/2006 18:07

Missed it at least the fine is less than feared I suppose

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