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Guest post: 'Like Stephen Fry, there's 30 years between me and my husband - what's the problem?'

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MumsnetGuestPosts · 08/01/2015 10:19

I'm not sure if people have stopped staring at us, or if it's just that we don't notice any more.

My husband Young has just turned 66 years old. I am 31. That's an age difference of 35 years, which we can only describe to people as ‘significant’.

When Young and I started dating, we would head for the darkest, quietest corner of the restaurant, hoping not to draw too much attention. We would hold hands, but only under the table, and our first kisses were soft and nervous.

These days, things are different. We have just celebrated our seventh wedding anniversary, and we have a five-year-old son who is confident and happy. He skips ahead of us down the pavement, loudly singing nursery rhymes and saying hello to everyone we pass. He makes it hard to go unseen.

We met in Edinburgh, the perfect backdrop for any love story. It's a city of dark alleyways, cobbled streets, and cosy pubs with log fires - easy to disappear in, if you need to.

For a good six months or so our dates – all those dinners in dark corners - were merely the backdrop for the conversations we needed to have. Falling in love with a man 35 years older than you, or indeed a woman 35 years younger, is not a decision you take lightly. It's not a relationship you enter into without thought.

It was tough. Those first months are supposed to be fun and giddy – but we had to be objective. There was an attraction, which had zinged in the air the first time we met, but we were not foolish enough to believe that it was enough to carry us forward. There had to be more.

Young and I knew there was no point in anything but absolute honesty. If we stayed together then open communication would be essential further down the line - when we imagined things would perhaps become more difficult - so we had to start as we planned to go on.

We laid ourselves bare. We talked at length about our dreams and ambitions, our families, our histories, our health. We talked about our finances, where our careers were going, and what we pictured in our minds when we thought of a forever house. We talked about the people who had hurt us in the past, about those we had hurt in turn, and what impact those events had had on us both.

We got the difficult bits out of the way early– the questions and self-reflections that most couples leave for a few years before grappling with. Knowing we don't have as much time as ‘normal’ couples and that we can't take a single day for granted means we just get on with loving each other fully, and filling our lives with as much joy as possible.

When I found out I was pregnant, again, we had to ask ourselves some difficult questions: how would we work things out financially when my husband retired? How would our child cope if his Daddy's health declined? What if he or she were bullied because their Dad looked like their Grandpa? We considered all of these things, but we knew that we could provide a safe, happy and loving home for a baby.

Even before we became parents, Young and I helped each other grow. My steady temperament slowed him down a lot, and made him more patient. In turn, he helped build my confidence. Not in a brash or aggressive way, he just filled my heart with love and encouragement and kindness, and gave me a quiet but determined sense of self-belief.

Since we've had Tom, we have continued to grow. We are happier, calmer and more content now than we have ever been. We are grateful, every single day, for our life together. Together, we have a beautiful, smart son, who crawls into bed with us each morning, and always begs for one more book.

There was perhaps a time when our age difference was the most interesting thing about us. Now it is not.

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WaitingForMe · 08/01/2015 12:26

I think it's commented upon because it is unusual. Also, relatively new. In the last few generations life expectancy has soared. Much of the problems with state pensions is because when conceived most people didn't have them for very long.

Also, being a sixty-something is nowhere near as "old" as it was even a generation ago. My mum is in her late fifties and her life isn't slowing down yet my Nana as much as gave up on fun when she turned fifty.
I was shocked recently to discover that a male friend was nearly fifty. I thought he was my husbands age (late 30s).

I wouldn't date an old man but I think "old" is increasingly a choice. I went on a date with a 42 year old aged 25 but felt he was a bit immature for me. I certainly don't buy into concerns about old age. My mum has buried two partners due to cancer. If bastard cancer isn't ageist, I don't think we can afford to be!

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Quitelikely · 08/01/2015 12:53

The problem is 'different ages, different stages'. It's not a problem a such but would be for the majority which is why I think it's not a regular pattern.

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DeathStar · 08/01/2015 14:54

Happiness should be celebrated, not ridiculed by outsiders - everyone's different, and if they judge you, they have issues they haven't had to confront yet, like you both did so in the process of making your life and love choices. Having a family around you is an achievement at any age, and finding someone compatible to start one with (or who stays) can't be taken for granted. I hope you get time from day to day to overlook the opinions of society and just appreciate how lucky you are - well done :)

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MakeMeWarmThisWinter · 08/01/2015 18:26

I think there were lots of considered posts on the thread about Stephen Fry in 'Sleb Twaddle'. But as this thread invites comments on a personal situation, I suspect MN is too polite to insult you personally.

I wish you every happiness and understand you're in love, I do think it's a very Romeo and Juliet situation though and I would personally swerve a similar relationship. You have difficult times ahead. Good luck.

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wildpoppy · 09/01/2015 15:43

Love this. X

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Lovetoknit · 10/01/2015 16:13

I am 34 and my husband is 52, we have have 4 children ( one son from his previous marriage and 3 younger ones together). Lot of people didn't think our relationship would last, including my parents, but this summer it will be 15 years since we have met and fell in love. There are no guarantees in life so we just try to make as many great memories as we can.

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bumblebee1234 · 12/01/2015 12:00

Nothing wrong with age gap relationships Katherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglass, Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. There is 20yrs between me and my partner I'm 31 and he is 51. We have 3 children plus 1 on the way. I don't think it is that uncommon people choose not to talk about it. Its no ones business tbh I have more important things to worry about.

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BuggersMuddle · 17/01/2015 22:31

I don't think an age gap relationship is bad per se, but it obviously involves some thinking that might not have to occur early doors in a relationship where both parties are the same age. That said, I am surprised by the uniform congratulation on Fry's relationship given the age gap.

I'm also going to guess that in the OP the older partner is not famous and the younger partner is not aspiring to be famous in the same field. Not so for Mr Fry and his husband.

Bumble Take your point re: CZJ and Michael Douglas, but she had previous of going for older men. Johnny Depp and Amber Heard though? Too soon - he had a family with Vanessa Paradis for many years until they split up and he moved on to a younger woman.

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Millli · 18/01/2015 20:39

Although when I see a picture of Stephen and his husband together it looks wrong to me, I accept that at this moment in time they are happy and in love and maybe that is all that matters.

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