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Leaking urine, anyone tried the gadgets around??

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justkeeponsmiling Sun 12-May-13 21:04:15

Thanks for all the support everyone!

My Aquaflex arrived a couple of days ago so I've been "hard at it" so to speak...

It was a bit of a faff at first but after some trial and error it turns out I can use the smaller one of the two cones with a 20 (gramms?) weight, for about 15 mins. I've been doing this twice a day now and also been doing a few pelvic floor exercises in between.

Will keep you informed of my progress (if there is any, fingers crossed!!)

littlestressy Sun 12-May-13 13:22:59

You are certainly not alone OP, I've only got 1 DC, I'm 36 and when I need to pee I have to, right then. Or I'll wet myself. The shame blush
So I'm going to look at your profile gussie and probably go to GP too.

gussiegrips Sun 12-May-13 13:09:27

That's a great site, Bella, thanks.

The reason I use 10, 10, 3 is because it breaks down into a strap line "we don't pee, if we 10, 10, 3"

Makes it easy to remember - and, as repetition is key, anything which helps us to remember is vital!

I guess my point is, it doesn't really matter how you make up the sets you do - the thing is to actually DO them.

bella65 Sat 11-May-13 07:46:45

www.pelvicexercises.com.au/about-michelle-kenway/

here we are- sorry made a typo with her name in previous post.

bella65 Sat 11-May-13 07:44:10

oh and Michelle recommends 50 Kegels, per day- batches of 10, then 10 quick flicks.

bella65 Sat 11-May-13 07:42:38

The other thing is- don't RUN until you have fixed the issue.

I had a repair 20 years back after exercises didn't work. I wasn't actually leaking but had grade 1 prolapse/cystocele. A few years back I decided to try jogging and everything felt a bit- well, not 'right' again. Off to a gynae and a physio who both said running is the pits for pelvic floors. Too much pressure on everything. Same goes for any exercise where you have both feet off floor then land with a thump.

I can recommend a DVD and website by an Ozzie physio Michelle Conway- google for her website which is something like pelvicfloor.au.

You can also ask her questions on the site(anon if you want) which she will answer.

sweetiepie1979 Fri 10-May-13 23:52:50

Oh great thread thanks OP and gussie

Watching with interest, you're not alone OP...wink

gussiegrips Fri 10-May-13 23:14:48

that's an excellent point, smiler.

Evidence is, 3 exercises, 3 times a day for 3 months, and then....once a day until you die.

Give up on them and you go all pishy again. Sucks. But, there you go.

Let me know how you get on. I'll change the world, one yoni at a time?

First thing you'll notice is an improvement in the quality of your orgasms ask me how I know fairly motivating...

justkeeponsmiling Fri 10-May-13 15:50:05

Wow, thanks gussiegrips!! Awesome advice!

I think you are totally right, we just don't talk about these things, it's a shame. I spoke to some of my work colleagues the other day (I'm a nurse so lucky for me I had no real issues discussing this over a cup of tea in ourstaffroom!) and it turns out most of the women there are exactly the same!

I had a good think and decided that my main problem is sticking with the pelvic floor exercises - I did them after giving birth but couldn't really be bothered and stopped doing them ad soon as I stopped peeing myself every time I sneezed.

For this reason, I have now bought the aquaflex- I think having a gadget might encourage me to stick with it this time round ( not to mention having a goal in mind, namely going for a run without a bloody tennalady!).

It's. day 1 today- lets see how it goes. If it's not successful I shall heed your advice and go to my GP.

Thanks so much again! x

gussiegrips Fri 10-May-13 10:41:20

Oh goodie, a leaky fanjo thread. I'll just get my soap box...this is my job, and very near obsession.

Pelvic floor exercises DO WORK. 70% of simple stress incontinence can be cured by doing 3 exercises, 3 times a day, for 3 months.

The problem is that they are not taught effectively, so you're not sure what you're supposed to be doing, so you do them badly, so they don't work, so you land up in surgery becasu "I tried the exercises" Sigh.

A THIRD of women aged between 35-55 wet themselves. A third of your friends are padding themselves up and feeling sad about it. Sigh.

It's truly the last taboo.

I've got a website, get the link off my profile - there's info and a talk-through-guide to the exercises. Follow me on twitter @gussiegrips - I tweet three times a day, when I tweet, you twitch your twinkle.

Evidence based practice, but, it's irreverent and, so far, seems to work.

I'm doing a show in the Edinburgh Fringe about pelvic floors, I have a hobby of stand up comedy so it's not as scary as it sounds. I'm going to use it to see whether my theory is sound - teach exs well, to groups of women, make it funny, then they'll encourage each other to comply, and know when to seek help.

So, there are other things which can cause your leaking - and, to be frank, it's best to show your fanny to someone who can tell you if your vag is falling out or not. That's not the end of the world, I've got a grade 2 prolapse and it's managed conservatively by exercises. Might not always stay that way, but, I'm entirely typical of what happens with compliance.

If you've got pain with pooing/sex/using tampons, get someone to have a fish about and check for a prolapse. Otherwise, doyerblardyexercises.

Now, gadgets.

All the ones you list have good evidence behind them. Aquaflex is the biggest seller - and, I'm fairly turned off by it after seeing one lying in the cereal aisle of Sainsbos. True Story. I'm not sure that adding a weight to your fanny is the way forward. You could eat a meal and load your pelvic floor that way, bunging 10g up yourself doesn't make that much sense to me. But, their evidence shows it does work, and if it helps you comply, then that's brilliant.

Incostress, a sort of pessary that shoves everything where it should be. Much loved by runners and zumba-ers. You bung it in, doyerblardyexercises and get on with your life. I like this one because you don't need to stop what you are doing to use it. So, compliance goes up.

Pelvic toner - also popular, and his evidence is that it works quickly. You've got to get your kecks off to use it, mind. But, if you do, it seems to be worthwhile.

The kegel 8 trainer is brilliant. It's expensive, but it gives you a measurement of power and talks you through what your regime is. I gave my sample one to a woman who'd had a TVT operation and was still leaky - three weeks later, she's now got a strong undercarriage. So, it's worth it's money, but you do have to actually use the thing, won't work from your underwear drawer.

I'd steer clear of any electrical stimulator unless you've had an assessment. There's lots of cases where women have plugged themselves in, settled down with a glass of wine to watch Downton Abbey, forgotten to turn the thing off, and done themselves a mischief. <shudder>

There isn't any evidence which says that gadgets are MORE effective than doing your exercises. But, anecdotally, if you get something you like you are more likely to comply.

I'm at home with three puking kids today, so will keep checking the thread (and MN for sanity breaks) Feel free to PM me to ask questions - you really don't need to put up with this crap.

It's a feminist issue you know, would men put up with being left pissing and crapping all over the place and a loss of their sexual function? Would they accept "Well, that's what comes with fatherhood, never mind" Course not.

Makes. Me. Cross.

anyhoo, have a look at the website, I'm really not advertising, it's just I've wittered on forever and should probably go and do some actual mothering instead of writing even more!

hang in there, see you on twitter.
x

greeneyed Thu 09-May-13 16:07:12

I used a pelvic toner (can't remember the name was a type of tens machine) Be aware that if you have any sort of nickle allergy the stainless steel plates have nickle in them! (trust me you don't want a skin reaction in your fanjo!) blush

To be fair after the conversation I had with their technical dept I don't think this is that common.

run4it Mon 06-May-13 21:47:35

I had exactly the same - only became apparent when I took up running. Wet to go, got referred to physio, found that because I have a sluggish bowel my pelvic floor exercises didn't work properly, am now on a daily laxative dose which is fab, combined with a pelvitoner - all did the trick nicely. I was told that surgery was a last resort, and didn't always work fully - I'm happy with where I've got to! Defo go to gp and get referral - a bit cringeworthy, but worth it!

justkeeponsmiling Mon 06-May-13 21:41:04

Thanks everyone!
No I've not yet been to the GP, mainly because the problem wasn't all to obvious to me until I recently took up jogging and also I was told by a Gynaecology Consultant I work with a couple of years ago that "if your pelvic floor is not back to normal within 6 Months of giving birth you might as well not bother with any exercisrs, your only option is surgery" This is absolutely true. So I kind of thought what's the point?
But will definitely go to my GP now, I got to the point where I'm willing to try anything (though hate the idea of surgery!)
Thanks!

cocolepew Mon 06-May-13 20:15:17

Go to the dr and get a referral to your continence clinic, they are nurse lead and will know what will benefit you best.

KatyMac Mon 06-May-13 20:13:36

You need a specialist Physio - get a referral from your GP

The physio can do all sorts if it doesn't work surgery is an option but tbh your GP is your first port of call

Footle Mon 06-May-13 20:11:05

Do you mean you haven't seen the GP about this ? That's a bit weird ! It's very common , could be down to a cystocele , and may need surgery, which is usually successful. Dr will suggest PF exercises , you will explain that they aren't helping ... They often don't.

justkeeponsmiling Sun 05-May-13 22:33:10

And yes, I have tried pelvic floor exercises, but they seemed to make no difference at all!

justkeeponsmiling Sun 05-May-13 22:30:50

Hi everyone,

I know I can't be the only one around with this problem, but sometimes it feels like it and it's driving me mad!!
After 3 DDs, the last of which is nearly 4 years old(!!!) I have a lot of problems with stress incontinence. I'm ok during normal day activities but coughing and sneezing are definitely a problem. I have recently started jogging and well, lets just say I really, really, REALLY need to sort it out now... god it was mortifying,I wanted to cry!!
My question is, has anyone had any experience with some of the gadgets that are on the market? I quite like the look of the Aquaflex, anyone tried this? Also, the Inkostress looked good and had good reviews, so not sure which one to try.
I know the Kegel8 had really good feedback on here but at the moment it's a little out of my price range too say the least..
Anyone who has tried and tested one of the available gadgets, your feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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