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what we really think about other mums (WOHM, WAHM, SAHM)

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sunnyjim · 10/03/2007 22:13

Work-outside-the-home mums get judged by default as the stay-home mums tsk-tsk their choice to earn some money to pay the bills. Stay-home mums assume that the working mums' kids will end up juvenile delinquents because Mum isn't home to guide her little demons 24 hours a day. Work-outside-the-home mums get the inane question, "Why did you have kids at all if you're going to leave them with babysitters all day?" God forbid if a work-outside-the-home mum's child gets into any sort of mischief, because the end judgement will be "Well, it figures. After all, Jame's mum is a corporate executive who's never home anyway, so how could she give him the attention he needs?". The stereotype here is that work-outside-the-home mums must be career-driven overachievers who need to work to feed their insatiable egos. That, or they must be more interested in climbing the corporate ladder than taking care of their first priority, their children!

SAH mums get the usual patronizing, "Oh? So you don't work? Then what DO you do all day?" inquiry, mostly from work-outside-the-home mum who have no clue just how busy a full time mum really is, nor are they aware that stay home mums DO work - and work hard. I feel that the stereotype of unemployed mums is the myth that they have allowed their college degrees to expire into nothingness, and couldn't care less if their brains fry from too much boredom or watching too many soap operas. The judgment is that any woman who chooses to stay home and "just" be a wife and mother must be a lazy, good-for-nothing, couldn't-get-hired-at-McDonald's-if-she-tried underachiever. Either that or she's an overeater who can't pry herself away from the refrigerator, or a wife who doesn't give a flying fig about helping her hard-working husband bring home a dual-wage!

But everyone loves a work-at-home mum. I mean, what bad things can be said about a gal who's got it all figured out - a way to bring home some needed cash while still being available to do the school run, help with homework, and bake cakes for the PTA. Still, this is a position that gets no respect. Even though she is not officially "at" an office, people still assume a work-at-home mum is available for afternoon teas and babysitting ("Can you watch my child since you're home anyway?") The doorbell and phone still ring from people who insist on borrowing her work time with idle chit-chat. The stereotype here is that work-at-home mums must not have the guts nor the education to make it in "the real working world", or that the work she is doing at home must be unimportant and self-serving since it is not corporately structured. The assumptions made about this kind of mum usually fall within the "should" category. "Well, she should spend more time with her family instead of pounding the keyboard or hosting Virgin Vie parties", or "She should go outside the home and get a REAL job if she's that desperate for money".

In a perfect world, all mums would pull together to help each other out. Stay-home mums would stop being holier-than-thou and offer the work-outside-the-home mum a hand in a friendly partnership that enables both of them to reap the rewards of what they do. Working mums would give the stay-home mums a break and start appreciating them for being the homefire-burners and enablers who provide childcare for the working mums' kids so she can go out and bring home some money. And everyone would stop pestering the work-at-home mum so she can get her work done!

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llareggub · 10/03/2007 22:22

You do make an awful lot of assumptions about people who work from home. When I'm working at home, I'm working. I'm not doing other stuff.

Do you really think people who work from home are skiving?

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MascaraOHara · 10/03/2007 22:24

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nooka · 10/03/2007 22:28

Boy, you've certainly spent some time thinking about this! I'm not going to say I'm holier than thou and never make judgements, of course I do (who doesn't), but generally about real people, not some stereotype that in reality doesn't actually exist. Each family and working arrangement is different. Some people's arrangements seem to work better than others, and some are more admirable to me than others for all sorts of reasons. I don't feel any requirement to either help out or pester any other "group", although it's always nice to help (and probably fun to pester on occasion). I am a parent and I have a career. It works for me. I don't expect either praise or complaint about that, rarely get either and that's fine by me

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sunnyjim · 11/03/2007 12:46

Its not my stuff! I cut and pasted it from here:

www.forparentsbyparents.com/mum_work_every_mum.html

the title is 'every mum is a working mum'

interesting to note that people immediatly read into it that I was 'getting at' a specific group when I felt it was a pretty good description of the way ALL groups of mothers can get stereotyped and pointing out how wrong that was.

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Pitchounette · 11/03/2007 13:17

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WideWebWitch · 11/03/2007 13:27

SJ, you say "In a perfect world, all mums would pull together to help each other out." Well, I think a good start would be to stop posting patronising advice to working parents based purely on your own experiences, as you did here

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Pitchounette · 11/03/2007 13:32

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WideWebWitch · 11/03/2007 13:42

We do Pitch but usually in response to being asked for it.

I'm sorry, my previous post was inflamatory, I apologise. Sorry Sunnyjim. Although your assumptions on the other thread riled me, it's bad form to disagree across threads so I apologise.

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zippitippitoes · 11/03/2007 13:46

I'm glad you didn't write it i think it is waffle

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Pitchounette · 11/03/2007 15:57

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PavlovtheCat · 11/03/2007 16:05

I am going back to work part time, hoping to work one day at home, and have two days with my 8 month old baby.
I do not care what other people think of me and how I chose to best care for my child. I will do what I can, in the circumstances I find myself in, and people can judge me how they wish. It highlights their own preconceptions of people's own personal situations and needs/desires, rather than my faults as a mother.

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zippitippitoes · 11/03/2007 18:26

it's waffle because it is someone just drivelling as though they have to write a piece on a topic

waffle as in no substance or thought

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motherinferior · 11/03/2007 18:31

WTF about working mothers 'always being on hand'? What on earth are you on about????

I have worked four days a week, based largely from home (I'm now outside the home a day and a half a week(, since my daughters were babies. I have been able - and have only been able to do this - because I have had excellent childcare, provided outside the house by a childminder. During my working hours I have a separate office, a separate phone line, and a separate function within the building where I also conduct my domestic life. I earn a rather good living, which for the first four years of my older daughter's life was rather more than that earned by her father.

I am absolutely livid. More livid than probably I've ever been by any fecking other thread on MN. I have never felt so damn patronised by anyone.

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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:32

I think SunnyJom is a journailst looking for copy ......

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motherinferior · 11/03/2007 18:33

I am not a 'gal'. I am not 'on hand'. Nobody whatsoever assumes I am 'on hand', or rings my doorbell. I am impeccably well-educated, and am equipped with a perfectly functioning gut, thank you very much.

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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:36

MI seriously, I am wondering about this poster - there is another thread along similar lines ......either this person is looking for research, looking for the rise, or is anothe Xenia....walk away - you are worth more and you know it...

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foxinsocks · 11/03/2007 18:38

but you see MI, you have no respect for your employer or yourself. If you did, you'd be working full time AND extra hours to prove that you're a dedicated employee and one who wants to be up for promotion.

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motherinferior · 11/03/2007 18:40

It's rather like previous threads from pre-pubescents generalising about why married blokes have affairs isn't it?

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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:41

Hey stomp off to a large glass of red ...

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motherinferior · 11/03/2007 18:43

Yes, that'll take my mind off my deadlines. Perhaps I should re-read the stuff I've had published recently as well, that'll keep me going in those moments when I'm dodging the neighbours' calls

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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:44

so how many have you got sleeping over tonight

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motherinferior · 11/03/2007 18:46
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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:47

see WAHM - no idea how many children they have - its that 'free house' thing you know....

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foxinsocks · 11/03/2007 18:48
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Blackduck · 11/03/2007 18:49

Nah I'm a WOHM....

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