Becoming a TA after being a teacher

(13 Posts)
PatTheHammer Sun 03-Feb-13 17:26:19

Just this really.

Wondered if anyone had any experience of doing this. If you did leave teaching to become a TA what 'Grade' were you paid at? Did you have to start over in effect and train or could you apply for higher grade jobs as you were essentially qualified?
Also how does TA pay actually work, I take it you don't get paid for the holidays?

By the way, I'm talking about an experienced teacher with 10 years plus experience.
I realise there are people I could talk to about this at work but at the moment it is highly confidential for personal reasons that I'm even considering this.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can add anything.

serengetty Sun 03-Feb-13 17:29:52

My colleague did this and gets 14000 per annum pro rata, 200 a month. Much less money, but much less stress!

serengetty Sun 03-Feb-13 17:30:11

800!!!!!

PatTheHammer Sun 03-Feb-13 17:38:57

Thanks Serengetty, Is that £800 a month full-time?
I'm always confused about what pro rata means, does this mean if she did a 0.5 part-time position she would get 7,000 per annum?

(disclaimer: I don't teach maths and finance......fortunately!)

serengetty Sun 03-Feb-13 18:14:36

Her gross is something like 11000, and she gets paid monthly, through holidays too. So if you worked full timetime you would get the actual salary...if you see what I mean!

serengetty Sun 03-Feb-13 18:15:14

That's TA Level 2 btw

CremeEggThief Sun 03-Feb-13 18:20:03

I have a thread about this in the Staffroom section, as I'm trying to get back into work as a T.A. No luck so far, although it's fairly early days, but some of the others' (on the thread) responses are well worth a read.

MariusEarlobe Sun 03-Feb-13 18:29:13

Me! I used to.

Remember most often TA are paid pro rata though.

I was on £13k and a bit a year on my contract.
But that was for full time based on 40 hours and I could only get 9 - 3, then I did not get paid for lunch, so 25 hours a week.

Then although you do get money over the holiday you are not paid for the holidays in a salaried way in lots of councils. So where as a teacher gets a set annual wage divided over 12 months a TA gets what they earn over the 39 or so school weeks divided over 12 months.

So if you get paid say for example £200 a week (random amount used to calculate) for 39 weeks of the school year so £7800 per annum divided by 52 weeks of the year there actually are you would only come out with £150 a week.

PatTheHammer Sun 03-Feb-13 20:19:47

Oh thanks cremeegg, will have a look on your thread.

Marius- Thank you for explaining the pay thing. This is kind of what I was expecting and I think sadly for me it means that it will be very difficult for me to find something suitable as the amount I need to cover my bills/childcare/out-goings etc is probably not going to be covered by a TA salary.

Its all so confusing with the contracts isn't it, some are employed full-time, some term-time only, some on a temporary basis.

inappropriatelyemployed Mon 04-Feb-13 07:26:12

Is this not a very difficult and complicated move unless you are happy to suddenly not be leading a class and to take direction from someone else?

My son has a TA and she was a teacher. We thought we were lucky, yet she knows nothing about supporting a child with additional needs, finds it very difficult to take instruction from external agencies and so does what she thinks is right. This has led to constant tension and a very poor relationship with my son.

She is now having to be moved sideways.

I am not saying this would happen with everyone but, especially when supporting children with SEN, you may have to make sure you are prepared to change your mindset.

MariusEarlobe Mon 04-Feb-13 09:47:09

I agree actually, I did it and thrived over being able to focus attention and have the time to extend learning with a particular child or group.

My uncle did same as finds it mind numbing. He supports a boy in a wheelchair, the boy is lovely but my uncle's pure job at the moment is to stay with the child and help them get round school.

Nothing wrong with that but he's not teaching.

I also think that it depends on the school, some view TAs as valued learning staff , I had loads of responsibility for adapting learning and assisting with planning.

Others would rather you stayed out of their way and sharpened pencils and photocopied.

I've worked in some schools were TA staff weren't allowed to use staff room!

PatTheHammer Mon 04-Feb-13 14:39:28

Thanks for the advice, when I first started as an NQT the school did not have enough teaching hours to fill my timetable so I did spend some of my timetable in learning support. I had a small maths extraction group and also supported children with additional needs in year 8 and year 11 lessons.
I know this was a long time ago for me but it was an invaluable experience for me as a teacher as it helped me plan the best use of my TA support.
Most years that I have been teaching I have had an entry level group at key stage 4 so I do have experience with working with small groups of children with quite complex SEN. I'm hoping this will all help if I do make the transfer, especially if it is to non-mainstream school.

Sorry about the situation with your son- inappropriatelyemployed. That does not sound helpful at all. I'm glad it seems to be on its way to being resolved for you.

morethanpotatoprints Thu 07-Feb-13 22:19:31

My friend found this a difficult move. If you are able to take a back seat and not feel like piping up, at times watch a teacher and be directed by them when you seriously don't agree with them. I think if you liked the teacher and you could respect them then fine, not sure if I could have done this.
However, as others have said less stress, finish when school does. Good holidays as you know teachers don't get 6 full weeks. Although TA's I have known still attend meetings i.e planning etc.

I know my friend would be shouting don't do it, but do you think you could manage the transition?

FWIW my friend now works supporting dc in pupil referral. She no longer teaches but has great satisfaction in turning their lives round. Also at the end of school day she is finished. She is paid aprox 32k and has done this for about 4 years now.

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