Hi All, just wondering if the latest bill is right, seems a lot? We use the gas for 2 hours a day to heat the water only - hour in the morning, hour in the evening. The latest quarterly bill is £193??? Surely that is a lot, we do not use it to cook or heat with? Just so we have hot water. Does this sound about right? What on earth would the bills be if we used gas to cook and heat with too??? Many thanks Lisa x
Your last point about the lack of thick curtains always makes me wonder I people have thought about energy bills when they have massive floor to ceiling windows or bi fold doors fitted when they renovate. Am assuming they don't have curtains drawn over at night so how on earth do they keep the place warm in our climate?! So much heat is lost through glass....
Now checked. Obviously there are a lot of variables but they might offset a bit eg
I have a terraced house (which should by rights be warmer than a semi because no heat-leaking end wall at one side) but on the other hand, it's big (17/18 ft ceilings in the hall and 14 foot in the main ground floor rooms) and I would guess might be bigger than yours, being Victorian rather than Edwardian. (7 or 8 rooms plus halls, bathrooms, kitchen etc.)
I kept my heating on through the day (and night) at times this winter because it was so bitter compared to last year - but I keep the setting mostly at 16 degrees.
(I'm not going to get into competitive coldness here. 18 is quite a reasonable temperature for you to go for. There's a school of thought which says that if you keep your heating on a lower setting permanently, it's cheaper. I can't get my head round the science of that (temperature gradients and all) but I was certainly much relieved by the winter bills after putting the heating on 'ON' for weeks on end, albeit on a lowish setting, and with a price rise of - 10% I think it was.)
Anyway, my total winter quarter (gas, electricity and VAT) was somewhere just south of £630 compared to your £955. Admittedly, we've got heavy loft insulation and are seriously economical with energy use that we don't need. (eg lights are turned off and rooms not being used at any point have the doors closed, the radiator thermostats turned right down and heavy curtains pulled.) Nonetheless, the windows are single glazed, original and drafty. (They actually rattle in the slightest wind.) The (conventional) boiler is about 7 years old but pretty efficient according to the engineers - who didn't even try to sell me a new one on the last visit.
I'd be looking at further energy saving if I were you. I'd also be having a serious talk with the family about whether you actually want to move. (It's hell going from a roomy house to one which is not so roomy - but also any prospective purchasers will likely want to know about energy bills if you decide to sell.) If you can get on top of it, that should benefit you either staying or leaving.
Well that's my instinct, Fluffy. I couldn't square it in my own mind with the physics but was just being careful in case I was being mentally lazy. That camp are very decided in their view.
I think Flossiechops certainly has head room with at least the possible use of heavy curtains (usually available pretty cheaply from ebay if you can collect) and insulation, both of which should be 'quick return' items.
Flossie - you might find that you can improve living conditions and reduce bills by those means alone. Say - a halfway situation?
I know you're right about the curtains. I have looked into them but the cost of the huge window plus a made to measure pole has put me off (will check eBay out). Have spoken with the energy company today and asked them to fix my payments from now. So based on the past 12 months usage it's now £137 a month. I had not really noticed the much lower payments are throughout the summer! So all in all I feel much happier spreading it throughout the year
Do look on ebay. I don't know where you're located generally but there are often large used sets of curtains for sale going seriously cheaply because people don't want to have them altered for smaller windows. You'd have to buy poles of course but I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the cost of the total package.