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Can't decide about IVF - not even sure if it's feasible; can anyone help?

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cuddlymoomoo Sat 25-May-13 21:43:09

I don't think I should post this in 'Infertility' as I feel that might be a bit insensitive.

I can't shake the yearning I have for another child despite everything telling me it's ludicrous.

I'm old.
I have health issues.
I have a balanced translocation.
I have had miscarriages.

But . . . apart from the old thing, I have had all of these factors when I've successfully had children before.

I have been wondering about IVF and that's really why I'm asking for some help. I know I'd have to go private, which is fine as I can make the money if needs be, but I have no idea what else it would involve. I know that it would involve pre-implantation screening for the BT, but would I even be considered in this country because of my age (47)?

If I did go ahead, how do I do that? Do I contact clinics myself? What is the process? How much does it cost?

I think there is still a chance I could conceive without IVF, but with the recent BT diagnosis, that is a something else to take into consideration.

I've name changed for this as I feel a bit of a fraud for even thinking of it at my age - but I also can't stop wondering whether there is any chance at all. I know I should just count my blessings, I really am very very lucky, but there's this niggle . . . sad

VixZenFenchell Sun 26-May-13 20:06:22

Sorry cuddly - probably my reply questioning whether you'd thought it through from the point of the child has opened you up to some more questioning replies and people are expressing concern for you should it not turn out as you hope.

FWIW I have a very good friend who attempted 3 self funded cycles of ivf as she was older than 40, still single and wanted a chance of a family. All sadly unsuccessful but I know she takes small comfort in the knowledge that she tried, gave it her best shot and then came to terms with it. As much as you can, anyway.

I wouldn't restrict yourself to clinics in Scotland for the basic reason that you'll have to pay so you have the entire UK at your disposal. What you need to do is email a short list of clinics and ask
1) can they offer pre implantation genetic diagnosis for the BT
2) would they accept you as a self funding client
3) what are their costs for a single cycle, broken down completely
4) would they allow you to source your own drugs online (my friend used an online pharmacy to reduce her costs)
5) what are their success rates in women of 47,48,49 years of age in terms of resulting healthy babies (not pregnancies)

From their replies you can then select which to go to.
Off the top of my head I think 2 were recommended for the older patient in terms of success rates in those age groups - both in London. However it's a while since I was looking into this. So you'll have to factor in travel and accommodation costs too.

DizzyPurple Sun 26-May-13 20:11:39

I think you sound defensive too. However, you need to look into what is Actually involved in IVF including the emotional stresses it brings. I'm 40 and dealing with secondary infertility. We have explored IVF and for us were given less than 20% odds of success with my age being a significant factor so presumably yours would be lower. We have decided for many reasons not to go down that path but I haven't given up hope that somehow conception may occur naturally for us. Not an easy business for any of us!

EuroShaggleton Sun 26-May-13 21:15:30

OP, I'm sorry you haven't got what you wanted from this thread. I'm going to try to answer the direct questions as much as I can.

A round of IVF costs from about 3k minimum up to about £15k, depending on the clinic and extras such as ICSI, immunes, etc.

The HFEA publishes success rates by clinic. I'm linking my clinic as an example. This shows in the relevant year, there were 6 cycles for women over 44 and none ended in a live birth. This compares against a national average of 1.1%:

guide.hfea.gov.uk/guide/HeadlineData.aspx?code=299&s=g&&gv=No%20data%20value&nav=2&rate=i&rate_sub=FSO

So it can happen over 44, but it's pretty rare. I don't think posters are wrong to say you need to be realistic about your chances. I think it's fair to say that a lot of IVF successes over the early 40s are with donor eggs.

The HFEA website also allows you to search by the max age of patients the clinic will accept.

You can self refer to most private clinics. Most say on the website whether or not they accept self-referrals. I have no knowledge of Scottish clinics as I'm in London.

I have no knowledge of the translocation testing.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

mimmum Sun 26-May-13 21:18:23

I don't think people can know how devastating a failed if cycle is unless they've been through it too. And sorry to be blunt but at your age the odds of success are minuscule with regular ivf add in pre genetic diagnosis and it drops further. I don't believe many reputable ethical drs will be prepared to take you on.

Natural conception would actually have much higher odds.

Ashoething Sun 26-May-13 21:21:23

Yours odds of having an ivf baby at your age without donor eggs are virtually nil-don't put yourself through it.

i don't really have any advice, but best of luck op

ellangirl Sun 26-May-13 22:40:16

GCRM in Glasgow is excellent. We did IVF twice (conceived 2nd time). It is bloody hard, and I was only 28.

cuddlymoomoo Sun 26-May-13 23:15:32

Thank you Vix - that is helpful, and Euro for the information too.

The information really helps - I know that my chances are absolutely tiny, tiny, tiny and I am by no means blithely stumbling into this saying 'ooh, I'll just have a bit of IVF and get a baby.' But I also know that clinics are in the business of making money so I won't necessarily get what I want if I call them for info, so many thanks to those who have given some here.

Mimmum - that is exactly what I wondered, that natural conception may be more likely, even if still very unlikely. But the screening issue is what niggles me there.

Thanks to everyone who has sent good wishes and the best of luck to all of you who are at some stage of this journey too

cuddlymoomoo Sun 26-May-13 23:16:59

One other question, Euro - are there figures to show the numbers of live births without donor eggs, or do they not break it down that way?

EuroShaggleton Mon 27-May-13 09:46:15

I think the HFEA lists donor cycles separately, so it was my assumption that the figures above were for IVF with own eggs, but I might be wrong about that. I've had a quick google around and found these links.

This link uses figures from 2010 but the numbers are similar to the ones on the link above and it gives a success rate of 1.9% for over 44s:
www.hfea.gov.uk/ivf-success-rate.html

This gives a general success rate for using donor eggs:
www.hfea.gov.uk/80.html#4

cuddlymoomoo Mon 27-May-13 10:14:46

Thanks EuroShaggleton - my maternal granny had her last at 51, and my paternal great granny at 49, obviously long before IVF; makes you wonder what the figures were like back then, doesn't it?

EuroShaggleton Tue 28-May-13 10:17:27

I guess they are in the 1%!

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