Anyone tried syntocin induced birth without epi? Is it worth a go or just go straight for pain relief?

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fanjobiscuits Thu 11-Jul-13 17:09:45

Induction looming and thinking ahead to choices if I get to that stage. Any experiences very much appreciated!

redcaryellowcar Thu 11-Jul-13 20:42:26

I was induced. tried to stay as mobile as possible, had gas and air from 11pm to 7.30am, then some diamorphine at 7.30, which made me very sleepy so I think progress slowed down. I delivered at 2.30pm. I was keen to avoid epidural but i appreciate some people would only do it with one! doctor who started my induction said being induced was not very comfortable and not to hold back on the pain relief!
best of luck. it will be fine.

LittleBipper Thu 11-Jul-13 20:43:11

I had a drip and had an epi at 8cm, I had back labour and he was wriggling in between contractions so I didn't get a break. I hadn't wanted an epi beforehand and think that if I hadn't had back labour and wriggling I would have managed without.

Another thing was I was off my head on gas and air but it wasn't touching the pain and I thought I would actually be better off with my wits about me.

pingulingo Thu 11-Jul-13 20:50:51

I was induced with my first and was going to try without an epi - the midwife was really quite insistent that it would be better to have it before the contractions started properly as it would be harder to get it in then. I'm very grateful she was so insistent (although I thought she was a stroppy arse at the time) because 24 hours later I was still on the drip - a couple of times I couldn't get a top up on the epidural because of blood pressure issues (this was towards the end) and it was agony for me.

However my DS was stuck and was never going to come out except via CS so I don't think most people are on the drip that long.

The actual induction was ok though, just lots of wait

pingulingo Thu 11-Jul-13 20:52:54

Whoops, lots of waiting around for pessarys and gels to do their stuff.

Good luck though and try not to worry (easier said then done!)

Sirzy Thu 11-Jul-13 20:55:36

I was induced with the drip, labour took 5 hours when established with the drip. I just had Gas and Air, I had decided before hand I didn't want an epidural and at no point did I change my mind.

I also had the added complication of DS being back to back and not turning meaning he got slightly stuck!

SuiGeneris Thu 11-Jul-13 20:55:54

Why would you not want an epidural? They are fantastic and if you have it before you start you will be able to relax and enjoy the process rather than wish it could be over more quickly. I had a 27-hour "natural" labour but only had the epidural after the first 17 hours or so. Like someone else above it was back-to-back brow, so pretty bad, but three years down the line I am still annoyed I had to wait that long for pain relief. If you have the option, take it and enjoy your baby's birth as a moment of joy rather than pain.

KatAndKit Sat 13-Jul-13 22:55:59

go for the epidural. I didn't and I was on the drip for 11 hours out of 19 hour labour and the only way I got through it was to get caned off my face on pethidine. Due to being totally off my tits I was then refused the epidural as apparently I was unable to sit still for long enough, it was too late for more pethidine and I had to go through the end bit with nothing but gas and air. The drip really does ramp up your contractions but it was the continuous monitoring and being stuck on my back that made it worse for me. If I have an induction again I'd go straight for epidural.

DinoSnores Sat 13-Jul-13 23:25:47

I've had an unmedicated home birth & been induced with synto. Both were lovely experiences. I wish I'd had the epidural placed before the drip went up as the first epidural when I decided I wanted one a few hours later only worked down my right side. These things happen though & the second epidural was lovely. I could still feel the contractions and could push when I needed to.

TobyLerone Sun 14-Jul-13 07:29:39

I had an epidural after about 4 hours of the drip.

My sister did it with just gas and air.

kerala Sun 14-Jul-13 07:36:48

Had 4 hours without epidural. Unspeakable. Wished I had had an epidural immediately after syntocin bil is consultant anaesthetist at his hospital it's policy to give an epidural when induced this way. Was my first ended up with emergency c section. Did have perfect vbac with dd2 though. Good luck everyone is different

CarpeVinum Sun 14-Jul-13 07:45:16

I didn't have a drip. I actually have no idea what was used, but it was a pessary.

The hospital had a "no pain relief" policy.

I have one child.

marzipananimal Sun 14-Jul-13 08:06:27

You could ask for expectant management instead of being induced at 42 weeks. Personally I wouldn't go on the drip without an epidural but you might cope fine so could take a wait and see approach. Bear in mind that you need an anaesthetist available so if it's quite busy make sure you ask sooner rather than later

kittencuddles Sun 14-Jul-13 10:24:23

I had the drip with no epi, just gas and air when they got really intense. BUT I was already 10cm when they put me on it I just wasn't having strong contractions naturally.

I did use my DH though for lots of back rubs etc which helped a lot. Also, make sure you drink plenty as it can make you dehydrated.

bico Sun 14-Jul-13 10:29:15

I had it without an epidural. Unbelievably painful. It was one of the reasons that ds is an only child. I was on it for 10 hours and they increased the dose so the midwife could deliver ds before her shift finished.

ZingWidge Sun 14-Jul-13 10:55:15

syntocin induced labour without an epidural is unfair.

your body is supposed to cope with contractions brought on naturally, but there's no way it can cope efficiently with the effects of artificial drugs!

I would strongly advise you to have an epidural if induced.

I had 6 kids. I know pain wink

tobiasfunke Sun 14-Jul-13 11:09:27

I did- because no-one suggested otherwise although in hindsight they kept asking me before it was put in what I wanted for pain relief.
It was 3 hours of one long contraction that never stopped. I was in so much pain I couldn't speak so midwife basically told me to have an epi.
Got the epi which was bliss and then 10 minutes later they had to get ds out by emergency forceps as his heartbeat disappeared. So I think the pain was partially syntocin and partially that I went from 2cm to 10cm in 3 hours. They gave me the epi so late because they didn't bother to check how far dilated I was as it was my first. (and their stupid machine told then my contractions were rubbish.).
Afterwards the senior midwife told me she wondered how long it would be before I got one as nearly everyone on the drip ends up with one as it's so painful. I wish someone had told me that before hand.

I had syntocin with my first after pessaries did nothing. Pain relief was two paracetamol and gas and air, I was far too quick to have an epidural.

Drip started at 9am, nothing, increased hourly, still nothing. 12pm increased again and I didn't get any lunch as I went from 2cm with just mild twinges at 12.20pm to delivery at 1.01pm.

Syntocin doesn't automatically mean long labour. I was in active labour (the point where you can actually have an epidural) for 41 minutes.

PigeonPie Sun 14-Jul-13 11:15:56

I did with DS1. It was brutal but worked; epi wasn't an option for me - it was either that or GA and c-section so I got on with it using just gas& air.

I would say my position helped, I was on my knees propping myself up on the back of the bed and with DH's support. I could hardly move afterwards but that's because of my physical condition rather than anything else.

DS2's delivery was much better and extremely quick.

SignoraStronza Sun 14-Jul-13 11:26:19

CarpeVinum I think we gave birth in the same country. Would an epidural have meant travel to a major city, a prebooked anaesthetist and minimum €600 cash in a brown envelope? Is entonox unheard of? Must woman suffer for the sins of Eve? Will your husband leave you if you so much as keep an extra 1 kilo post partum? Does your breastmilk go 'bad' after six months?

No wonder most families consist of one child.

OP, you'd be bonkers to consider the drip without pain relief - childbirth ceases to be 'natural' after one of those things is stuck in you, whatever the healthcare professionals may say.

Thinkingof4 Sun 14-Jul-13 18:45:30

I was induced with drip for ds1 and didn't have epidural. I had tens, and morphine injection. I became hypertonic on lowest possible dose, at this point mw had just gone for tea break so I was having continual contractions without a break for about 30 minutes. They switched drip off when she came back and ds arrived a while later ( not sure how long exactly, but entire labour was only 8 hours so pretty quick)
I'm about to be induced for dc4 tomorrow and really hoping they can just break my waters and that I'll labour after that.
I was also induced with ds2, with him I just needed pessary which worked really quickly and he was born in about 7 hours.
Ds3 was spontaneous labour, 3 hours or so and so I was hoping to avoid another induction!
However I'm term plus 13 tomorrow, and I'm not taking the risk of something happening to baby which is why I'm accepting induction

Good luck op

CarpeVinum Sun 14-Jul-13 19:11:20

SignoraStronza

Oh yes.

Expect I was in a major city, well, almost, just a few hundred meters from the edge of Milan proper. Curse you Sesto S.G. and your bastard "natural suffering is good for the soul baby" philosophy.

taten Sun 14-Jul-13 22:47:19

I have been induced with both my children and never felt out of control. I had the same experience as Tarkatheotter I'm so glad I had the epi. Once they put it in I fell asleep for two hours, woke up when I felt dd1 moving down. They had the drip turned up pretty high and I found it quite painful and I vomited on gas and air!
With ds I had no drip, and only two codeine tablets for pain relief, he was delivered in two pushes..

Twunk Sun 14-Jul-13 22:54:26

I was induced (waters broken, put on drip) with syntocin. I had no pain relief at all - none. No G&A available in Dutch hospitals. Plus they kept turning the drip up! I asked for the only pain relief offered which was pethidine but unfortunately I was 8cm by that time and it couldn't be done.

It was a very intense and very fast labour. DS had the cord round his neck so pushing took a while (eventually had an episiotomy).

All I all, I recommend an epidural.

On the plus side, I recovered quickly hmm

munchkinmaster Sun 14-Jul-13 23:22:26

I was put on syntocin but actually my waters had not broken properly. This meant I felt no pain (but neither was it working). It was only the absence of pain which made them investigate my waters more so if I had had the epidural at the same time we'd never have known anything was wrong. Also meant that I was on a stupid high dose by the time my waters broke and so went straight into crazy labour from nothing.

I have to say this thread has helped as I have always felt a bit of a wimp re taking the epidural later.

I had first two DC's naturally (ie not induced) without any pain relief. DS2 was induced at 37 weeks, pessaries did not work so they broke my waters and put me on the drip. Told me to give it a go, that my body should know what to do once labour kicked off because of previous labours...then they would be able to turn the drip off. Except no one told the midwife this hmm and she kept turning it up even when I was well into established labour.

Like earlier poster, the feeling of loss of any kind of control was terrible, the contractions were fast, strong and unrelenting, very different to the ebb and flow of my natural labours. By then I was begging for an epidural but was in such a state I couldn't keep still enough, DS2 was born shortly after and I remember thinking that at least I got through it without the epidural - except I then had to have a spinal block anyway because my placenta didn't detach hmm sad.

So I also say to get the epidural, especially for first baby...

Good luck!

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