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junior mag re- dr elaine crabtree.........who seems to know sod all about breastfeeding.

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williamsmummy · 04/10/2007 21:52

from current junior mad, nutrition Q& A

This letter I is on completely fabricated, I never read such complete bull in all my life.

Q A friend of mine who still breastfeeds her two year old son insists this is the best way to nourish a child. Is this OK?

her reply,
YOu dont say whether your friend is exclusively breastfeeding her son. OR whether he eats solids as well. I advocate the beneifits of breastfeeding, but draw the line for a two year old child.
I am sure your friend has the best of intentions.
But I think she could be creating problems for herself. Breastfeeding is perfect for babies- it provides the optimal amount of nutrients and allows the mother to pass on antibodies, that can help reduce the chance of her baby developing infections and allergies.
However once a baby is six months old , milk alone will not meet all nutritional requirements. milk is low in iron and babys stores will start to be depleted at 6 months.
babys are ready to move on to solid food at 6 months, plus they need to develop the hand and eye co-ordination needed to get food in to their mouth.
Easting is also important in developing speach as it helps them to form sounds.
BREASTFEEDING IS ALSO DETRIMENTAL TO THE MOTHERS HEALTH, AS THE CALCIUM REQUIRED FOR THE MILK NOT ONLY COME FROM THE STORES IN HER BONES, BUT ALSO HER DIET.
THE NUTRITIONAL BENIFITS OF THE BREAST MILK WILL ALSO BE INSIGNIFICANT , AS HE IS UNLIKELY TO BE TAKING IN LARGE VOLUMES. he WILL ALSO HAVE A GOOD SET OF TEETH BY NOW , SO SHE MAY HAVE BEEN NIPPED A FEW TIMES TOO!!


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i have a few problems with this reply, for one, although breast milk has little iron, it is all absorbed by baby, formula milk is higher in iron than breastmilk, but thats because is more difficult for baby to absorb, hence dark poos and constipation.
I dont think the nutritional benifits of the breast milk ARE insignificant, what study pin points who much milk is required to prevent infection? NONE thatI have heard of. and why does the magic age of two make a difference to the milks nutritional benifits?
IS cows milk the same? should we all stop giveing our children any form of milk because its nutritional benifits are not worth it?
I have never heard of breastfeeding alone being the cause of brittle bones in woman? sounds like complete rubbish to me.
Hardly supports breastfeeding does it?

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williamsmummy · 04/10/2007 21:53

just adding that I HOPE its fabricated!!!

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moondog · 04/10/2007 21:55

What a load of absolute fucking bollocks.
Why do people want to sabotage breastfeeding over and over?
I am convinced there is some weird deep seated jealousy (from both weirdy men and women0 at the thoguht of something that can work so brilliantly with noone else poking their nose in.)

I've just cancelled my subscription to Junior.It's shit.
Ridiculous ads for frilly shits and jodhpurs or Psychology 101 repackaged with a soft focus shot.

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hunkermunker · 04/10/2007 21:57

What a spout of shite!

BF actually reduces the risk of osteoporosis

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hunkermunker · 04/10/2007 21:59

Why does she draw the line for a 2yo when the WHO says this is the MINIMUM time a child should be bf for?

Who is she to say that? Does she know more than the WHO?

And cocking facking ballholio nits - doesn't she think that children have many teeth before they're two as well? Mine have both had them by 6mo and there's not a chance I'd have stopped bf them then!

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FrannyandZombie · 04/10/2007 22:00

ffs

that is really bad

I am so glad I cancelled mine too, it is a load of cack and the only good thing in there was a mention of Aitch's site

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williamsmummy · 04/10/2007 22:00

I really hope its shite , I breastfed my four kids for years. (am not boasting , I am very cow like....................anything to sit down with a cuppa tea and choccy biccy to avoid the housework!!) LOL

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berolina · 04/10/2007 22:01

'from current junior mad' - Freudian typo?

moony, I agree. some people do seem positively frightened of bf.

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MadamePlatypus · 04/10/2007 22:04

What a load of rubbish. "They need to develop the hand and eye co-ordination needed to get food into their mouth" as a reason not to breastfeed ????!!!!!

Do babies develop better co-ordination if bottle fed?

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moondog · 04/10/2007 22:07

Guffaw at that very clumsy (and inaccurate) sentence about speech development.
It's all straight off the top of the silly bat's head!

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williamsmummy · 04/10/2007 22:08

I am going to cancel my mag as well, it only appeals to a certain type of parent and I wonder how it keeps its readers.

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ScaremyVile · 04/10/2007 22:10

I bought this magazine when I was pregnant and there was an article extolling the sexual pleasure of childbirth

I didn't buy it again.

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moondog · 04/10/2007 22:12

I like to titter bitchily at Sophie Conran banging on about rustling up choux pastry with Maximus and Amelia.
Wot a load of crap.

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kerala · 04/10/2007 22:14

I read an article in there where a (male) expert explained that childbirth doesnt actually hurt its a natural process and the pain depends on your approach to it. Not bought since

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moondog · 04/10/2007 22:15

My sister describes the clthes ads as being the kind of thing that weirdy ambassador's kids in Geneva would wear.

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MrsCarrot · 04/10/2007 22:16

I used to quite like this magazine but the ads are nauseating as are some of the columns. I can't believe that breastfeeding article, how depressing.

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Walnutshell · 05/10/2007 08:10

Sorry to hijack but williamsmummy, how long did you feed your dc's for? Ds is 2yr at the end of this month and doesn't show any signs of stopping bfing so I'm curious about other people's self-weaning experiences ...

Re OP - bizarre. I wonder if they advocate a human lifetime of slurping great quanitities of cow's milk designed for, erm, calves.

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moondog · 05/10/2007 08:46

Walnut,one of my kids self weaned at 2 1/2, the other at 11 months.
Neither was under any pressure from me.

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MrsJohnCusack · 05/10/2007 08:55

moondog - your sister is SO right

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Walnutshell · 05/10/2007 09:00

moondog, was your 2.5yr old still feeding in the day? I mean, how do they self-wean, gradually reduce or just suddenly stop? I sometimes think, maybe I'll try and reduce the feeds but one sad little wail from ds and out pops the boob, so why bother?

[Besides, I'm now reading The Book. You know the one...]

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FrannyandZombie · 05/10/2007 09:29

Walnut I fed ds until he self-weaned at nearly 4. We were down to just a quick feed at night by that time. At 2.5 he certainly was still feeding in the day, but by 3.5, never. It all happened very gradually and almost seamlessly. I miss it now.

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Walnutshell · 05/10/2007 10:11

I just had a wave of emotion reading that F&Z. Dear oh dear, hormones.

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FrannyandZombie · 05/10/2007 10:15

Oh I was in a dreadful state when he decided to stop, walnut I'll try to find the thread, everyone was so lovely

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FrannyandZombie · 05/10/2007 10:20

Oh well slightly shame faced as is partly lots of nice things about me

but here you are, I thought it was wonderful to see the support that other mothers can show for extended breastfeeding, even if the 'experts' bombard us with crap like that quoted in the OP

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whyjunior · 05/10/2007 10:26

Why do people actually buy Junior. I admit I do because ny dd is often in it but can't understand who would actually be interested in it!

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Walnutshell · 05/10/2007 10:45

F&Z - thanks so much for that link, I really enjoyed reading it --- while ds had a quick bf! I was particularly amused by you wanting to appear 'normal' in front of your neighbour as I have the same feeling (new to area, getting on well, can't be bothered with any controversy just yet... although actually I'm probably totally underestimating him).

I was chatting with someone I am just getting to know around here and when I mentioned that ds still bf, she looked pretty surprised and said, "I never did that at all!" which made me feel quite sad. Almost as though in her experience it wouldn't have crossed her mind to bf. To me that spells out a lot about the supposed 'choice' women have to bf or ff. She is still friendly so I guess I haven't scared her off.

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