Shit - ate dairy, now DD ill. How to feed now??

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Not sure whether I should post this here or in allergies really.

Breastfed DD (8.5months) is milk intolerant, but I think I inadvertently had some dairy this afternoon (hot chocolate powder in Starbucks - had with soy milk and without the buttery caramel topping, but forgot that choc powder would prob contain milk too). Shortly after a bf this evening she projectile vomited probably her entire stomach contents - never seen her so ill .

Don't know what to do about feeding her now. Anyone know how long the dairy will stay in my milk for? I thought it took 7-10 days to clear completely from your system, but I can't not feed her for that long. I have some Nutramigen which we use for cooking, but she won't drink more than a couple of sips (of anything) from a cup, so I don't really have the option of giving this and pumping and dumping my milk.

Anyone got any bright ideas?

Worried that she'll wake in the night for a feed now as there's nothing in her, but worried that if I bf then she might be sick and choke in her sleep.

[7up]

sorry dont know, could you ring the out of surgery docs and ask them?

[FrannyandZooey]

I would phone LLL - incredibly helpful and have access to the very latest health information regarding breastfeeding:

24 hour line

0845 120 2918

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Unfortunately they're always totally crap at 'specialist' questions like this.

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Oh, that was to 7up not you Franny. What a great idea thanks - will give them a call.

[fishie]

sorry i don't know how long it takes to clear, but do know that there is no point in pump and dump. if it is in your bloodstream it will be in your milk, so whenever it is metabolised it will be out of your mik. can you google something like how long dairy stays in system?

[7up]

franny and zoey,im quite jealous because you always provide good information

[FrannyandZooey]

7up I just provide the same information again and again

[fishie]

yes is 450 times better than mine. csws i do hope it is ok, hopefully such a little amount will not take too long.

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Just spoke to them. They said that it will peak in my bloodstream a certain number of hours after eating it (but she wasn't certain how many hours), and that it would then clear from my blood and hence my milk, even if it was still in other bits of my system. She therefore thinks that I'll be ok for her next feed, but she's taken my number and might give me a ring back if she can find out any more information.

Thanks ladies - breathing a huge sigh of relief (whilst chastising myself for being so stupid in the first place!)

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

She phoned back. Reckons it will all be cleared in 24 hours, and to continue feeding as normal.

[FrannyandZooey]

Oh wonderful. I do hope your dd is ok, and what a bind for you having to be so terribly strict with your own diet, I would imagine it is pretty difficult

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Not easy at all Franny, but that's my first slip up since we discovered her problem at 4 months. I just have to read the labels on everything, cook most stuff from scratch, and be really difficult if we eat out . I'd only intended to bf until 6 months, but I can't blame the poor mite for not wanting to drink Nutramigen instead - it is quite rank!

[FrannyandZooey]

I am sure you know already that the longer you can breastfeed her the better, as far as her allergies go?

Good going not getting caught out till now. And in a way this very extreme reaction at least proves the need for the trouble you are going to

[TwigTwoolett]

jeez .. I wouldn't have thought it was possible that a lactose intolerance in a child could be affected by breastmilk from the mother .. I would've thought anything you ingested would change its structure by the time it passed into your breastmilk

you live and learn .. you really really do

good luck

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Twig - it's actually cows milk protein rather than lactose in our case, although the same principle applies to lactose of course.

Franny - yep I know - no plans now to give up in the forseeable future, although it would be nice if she'd take an occasional bottle so I could have the odd night out (MN Christmas meet will be my first one since DD was born!). Thankfully she hasn't had any severe reactions to anything else we've given her - just the odd mild red rash from things like tinned tomatoes.

In a funny kind of way it's reassuring, as my GP was never convinced that she was milk intolerant in the first place (because she still gained weight fine), and I occasionally wonder if I'd imagined it all - at least now I know that it's very definitely real (sadly), and that she hasn't outgrown it yet.

[curlew]

How was she diagnosed as milk intolerant? If she had such an extreme reaction to such a tiny amount of indirect dairy then isn't it more likely to be a full blown allergy rather than an intolerance? Please don't discount the possibility of coincidence.....

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Hi curlew - she was diagnosed after spending the first 15 weeks of her life screaming constantly, pooing constantly, and with sever nappy rash. I gave up eating dairy and within 2 days I had a different baby. She also used to be sick quite a bit after feeds.

I have to admit that I am surprised by the severity of her reaction. She slept til 4:40 then woke wretching. I bf her and she slept another 1hr 20 mins, then was sick a little when dh got her up. She bf again but shortly afterwards she threw up masses, unfortunately whilst lying on my chest - yuk!

It could be coincidence, but seems a pretty big one if so!

She does have sticky eyes and a cold too, but wouldn't expect those to be related to a sickness bug, would you?

[FrannyandZooey]

My friend whose son is dairy intolerant was told by specialists that her breastmilk would have no effect on his allergy, but the effects were obvious when she did eat dairy.

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

How peculiar Franny - DD's paed and my h/v told me that it could have an effect, and TikTok has confirmed this on here too. Another case of the 'experts' not being in agreement!

[jasnDISMemBERED]

poor dd. I hope it does only last 24 hours, then.

Does she react to dairy on her skin as well? If yes, it would def be worth considering allergy rather than intolerance...

[mears]

Is it possible she has just got a bug at the moment?

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

No reaction from milk on skin Jas.

I really don't know anymore Mears. The longer it goes on the more I begin to wonder, esp as neither dh nor I are 100% at the moment (although we're more head colds than anything else, and haven't been sick). It would be a big fat coincidence, but don't know how I'll ever know for sure (unless I have another hot choc once she's better!).

I assume there's nothing I should be doing except giving her plenty of bf and cuddles, and very simple food if any at all?

[Frizombie]

CSWS, sorry to hear dd is sooo poorly, looks like your doing everything you can for her, its horrible when little ones are so ill, if its any help when we were all poorly last week (if you remember!) dd2 had been a bit sicky for a few days before, but I'd just put it down to her being a piggy as she'd been drinking and eating more than usual....then we were all sooo illl, ho hum.

[CastsSpellsWitchySpells]

Hmm - dh just been sick - perhaps the dairy was a red herring after all!