Potty training bit unsuccessful.

[roz2]

Hi,I wonder if anyone can help with my youngest daughter.She is 2yrs 4mths and has been in knickers for 4 months.She has enough bladder control as sometimes won't need wee for 3 hrs and there is no dribbles.Most of the time I have to remind her to go and most of the time stays dry.
Sometimes she will take herself to potty or ask me and other times she will stand there and say wee as it is running down her legs.This can be frustrating as we only have about 1 completely dry day a week.I don't understand how she can hold it in sometimes and be so wets at others.
Our major problem is poo.In over 4 months we have only had 3 successes on potty,all others are in knickers.I have spoken to my health visitor about this and we have tried all the usual sticker charts,penny in money box for treats,sitting at regular intervals etc.No luck.The trouble is she hasn't got a regular time can be morning, mid day, early evening,before or after meals so you can't pinpoint time.She has no problem going takes her about 3 secs flat hence no time to put potty underneath.She is not scared by poo-ing, not scared of potty just never get her to go in appropriate place.
At the moment my health visitor has advised me to ignore when she does a wee or poo (in knickers)and change her without any conversation at all and act like nothing has happened.but the usual woo hoo praise when she goes on toilet/potty
Anybody have ideas please?
Thanks

[barney2]

roz2 - this is a tricky one!!! I've got a DD who is 2.8 and we've ONLY JUST mastered the poo's on the loo. It's taken her a lot of accidents - poos in the knickers, in the bath, on the floor, in the garden etc etc and she has only just decided to do them on the loo. The way I saw it providing she was dry I couldn't care less about the poos! Your health visitor is so right on this one - when your daughter does a poo in her pants or anywhere for that matter other than the loo/potty - just clean her up/change her and don't say one word. Otherwise you'll be seen as giving her attention for something she's done wrong. And, yes, make a right racket when she does get to the loo.

We always knew when our DD needed a poo because her hand would go underneath her backside and she'd complain she needed a wee when in fact we knew it were the other and so had time to get her on the loo.

I don't think there is a lot I can suggest on this one other than at 2.4 she's done very well to have even started to become dry - some children don't even want to know at that age.

Just keep going, don't get stressed - don't let her see you get worked up over accidents - as hard as that may be!

[jabberwocky]

I think ds was 2.9 or even 2.10 when he mastered poos on the potty. Even now at 3.1 he still has the occasional accident/backsliding moment. I think at 2.4 your HV is right. She's still awfully young.

[sandcastles]

I think at this stage you should be putting her on the potty at regular intervals, not waiting for her to initiate it..or for you to remind her. DD potty trained a week after her 2nd birthday, she was dry by week 2. BUT I was constantly putting her on the potty, always kept it in her view...I think at 2.4 she is too young to remember herself.

[roz2]

Hi thanks for all advice, and thanks for not telling me to put her back in nappies.As for getting stressed I'm quite calm about it as only did potty training 2 years previously with eldest who is now 4.After 2 weeks she always told me and rarely had accidents also was clean before this so just a bit of a shock with my youngest.Nice to hear other peoples children have taken a while too.I'll just keep going then.She'll get there eventually.
The only thing that used to annoy me is when she laughs after she tells me she has been in her knickers!But after chat with health visitor the non reaction will keep me calm too

[barney2]

.....my eldest daughter (now almost 8yrs) mastered both wee's and poo's within about 10 days at age 2.4.... as for my second child, daughter, who is now 2.8 - she was dry within a few days but SHE started training herself - whilst I'd tried to encourage her to atleast try sitting on a potty/loo a few weeks prior she didn't want to know. Then she suddenly decided to do it herself, at her own pace, on her own. My own experience tells me that the eldest child sussed it straight away, probably because she had one to one with me and no distractions with other children whereas the second child was a bit of a nightmare, but we got there eventually. As far as your daughter laughing at you when she does have an accident - thats kids for you!!!