just thought I'd share this as it realy seems to work. DD2 is a strop meister supreme - when she's in eth srtop zone tehre is no way to get her out of it, except - I have recently discovered - a round of Simon says style instructions. (I actually don;t bother with the Simon says bit coz I expect her to do it all and it's not a game). I tell her to sit down, stand up, touch her nose, touch her knees etc etc. I sound quite strict and if she doesn't do it I just say "right I'm going back to the kitchen then" (sadly, it usually is the kitchen). and so she does it. when she's done enough and has calmed down I get her to sit down, put her hands on her knees and then say "sorry". In one sense it might be giving her the attention she wants - but she only gets the attention if she does as she's told. the minute she stops complying I walk away. It's my most succesful strategy yet. I have no idea where I got the idea from, but it calms me down too, sometimes I have to fight not to smile abuot it all
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