Thoughts on Niall?

(37 Posts)
Linguaphile Sun 28-Apr-13 21:15:46

Is it too crusty old-man or nerdy? DH mentioned he liked it the other day, so I thought I'd garner some popular opinion. What do you think? For what it's worth, we're having twins, and in the event it turns out to be two boys (won't find out for another week and a half), his brother would be Felix Peter.

Gray would most likely be the middle name (it's a family name), but that's not set in stone.

Other potentials are Maxwell, Robert, or Isaac.

squoosh Sun 28-Apr-13 21:24:25

Neither old-man nor nerdy. In Ireland Niall is an everyman name like Thomas or James are in the UK. I wouldn't expect a Niall to have a brother called Felix but that's not to say he shouldn't.

I do prefer Isaac though.

Thurlow Sun 28-Apr-13 21:33:27

Prefer the other 3 names, to be honest. I love Isaac and would consider it myself, if I didn't have a problem with 'S's!

I do like Niall, but I know one at work, and everyone says Neil by accident, which is probably really annoying.

steben Sun 28-Apr-13 21:35:42

Love Niall - knew a lovely bloke of that name smile

OhBuggerandArse Sun 28-Apr-13 21:38:52

It's supposed to be pronounced Neil, Thurlow - the 'nye-all' pronunciation is a mistake caused by reading an Irish spelling with English pronunciation rules.

thermalsinapril Sun 28-Apr-13 21:39:17

I like it, and I also like your other three ideas.

squoosh Sun 28-Apr-13 21:43:29

Of the 456,843 Niall's I've met in my life they've all pronounced it Ny-ul. So whether it's a mistake or not with Irish spelling/English pronunciation I think it's fair to say that it's now the generally accepted pronunciation.

OhBuggerandArse Sun 28-Apr-13 21:50:36

It's a post-colonial pronunciation, deriving from the interiorisation of imperialist cultural perspectives. wink

Let's hear it for some creative resistance to the spelling and pronunciation systems of the coloniser!

jellybeans Sun 28-Apr-13 21:51:51

Love it.

ZolaBuddleia Sun 28-Apr-13 21:57:29

I know a Ny-ul and Nee-ul.

squoosh Sun 28-Apr-13 21:59:57

Living languages change all the time. Do you think Conor should still be spelt Conchobar? Beside, Ny-ull sounds nicer. Neil is dull with shades of yawn.

Nagoo Sun 28-Apr-13 22:00:47

I like it. But them I liked Allan so who am I to say.

OhBuggerandArse Sun 28-Apr-13 22:06:43

Conor is a spelling that derives from the kinds of changes living languages go through, so that's completely different. Nye-all is a pronunciation that comes from people who don't speak or understand the language they're reading. It's a dead language pronunciation. You'd be giving your child a dead name. Actually not a dead name, a zombie name. Bwah hah hah <shivers>.

CounselorTroi Sun 28-Apr-13 22:10:24

Niall = Neil? Like Niamh?

OhBuggerandArse Sun 28-Apr-13 22:21:52

Yep.

forgetmenots Sun 28-Apr-13 22:46:14

OhBuggerandArse is correct, but even the Irish Nialls I know are all Ny-ull, happy to accept it's a going back and forth of anglicisation and then re-use in Ireland, even though I'm usually a stickler only because it sounds nicer than Neil, or Nee-all as it is in Scotland smile.
Lovely name and a strong boy's name, the fella from One Direction might make it more popular. Never met a bad one.

Linguaphile Sun 28-Apr-13 22:52:06

Wow, I had no clue about the pronunciation thing! Food for thought.

OkayHazel Sun 28-Apr-13 23:00:00

Niall is great. Actually dislike Felix.

Niall Quinn!

Debbie37 Sun 28-Apr-13 23:11:22

My partner is called Niall he hates it ,mostly because people say Niels or Nigel .

KobayashiMaru Tue 30-Apr-13 18:36:43

The very very common pronounciation of niall as ny-ul is not a mistake! Its the correct way in Ireland. The scottish traditional way is pron neil but spelled niall.

AThingInYourLife Tue 30-Apr-13 18:43:43

No, OhBugger is right.

Niall is Irish should be pronounced Nee-ul (or really Nyee-ul).

Nye-al is (very common and ugly) mistaken pronunciation.

AThingInYourLife Tue 30-Apr-13 18:44:35

in Irish, not is Irish.

KobayashiMaru Tue 30-Apr-13 18:52:02

no, she's not. It's called a variation, not a mistake, and you've some kind of arrogance to tell generations of men that they are saying their own names wrong. hmm

Bumpsadaisie Tue 30-Apr-13 19:09:37

I really dislike Neil, but actually quite like Niall. So a thumbs up from me.

Again not sure it sits immediately obviously with Felix but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Felix and Oscar, Felix and Ludo, Felix and Theo blah blah blah, they are ten a penny in some places.

Felix and Niall - much more interesting!

MummyBurrows Tue 30-Apr-13 19:10:41

Niall from One Direction is Irish and pronounces it Ny-al...both pronounciations are right due to variations,just like Naomi (nay-omi or ny-omi),and depends on how you personally want the name to be pronounced rather than one way being "right" and the other being "wrong",its purely personal choice and will vary. One pronounciation is (in this case) just more common and widely used and the other is more traditional but rarely used,in the uk at least anyway...<runs away from debate and back to OPs question>

I personally am not keen on the name Niall (I'd say it as ny-al) and much prefer the other 3 names,in particular Isaac and Maxwell smile That's probably not much help though seeing as I wouldn't choose Felix either because its my cats name

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