To think Ivonka Trumps Women Who Work is insincere

[jdoe8]

She doesn't live in the real world, works for her dad that will never sack her and has mountains of money for help.

In the real world you have to deal with reapplying for your job else your unemployed, issues with tax credits and the headaches these cause, having to move away from all your family and friends as house prices are too expensive where you were born and raised. I could go on!

[backupbackup]

Switched off at "mind expanding and all consuming"

Fuck of Ivanka.

[backupbackup]

*off

[jdoe8]

That is the highlight of the clip!

[earlyrise]

She's been working hard to raise awareness of the appalling maternity leave in the US. Together with her dad I think they've even worked out how to fund an extension to the current period, which is just 12 weeks. Imagine they manage get an amendment passed. I don't care if she's annoying.

[Auit]

Wow jdoe another of your threads

Hows the funding poor poor Hillary going?

[PigletWasPoohsFriend]

jode how much of 'living in the real world' do you think Chelsea Clinton has to deal with?

[TSSDNCOP]

Tell you what if she can do something to improve the appalling maternity leave in the US, they'll be throwing her a parade.

Was that on Hillary's manifesto?

[CeCeBloomer]

She always comes accross really well in interviews etc

[minifingerz]

She's being given a job in her father's administration on the panel selecting those applying for positions within the new government.

So are two of her brothers.

Her qualification for this job is working for her father, being a model, and having a jewellery business which manufactured most of its products outside of the USA (presumably to maximise the profits she needed to make as the child of a billionaire).

The new political dynasty. Jobs for the family.

It's like North Korea.

[Arkhamasylumbertowardsthegrave]

Why pick on her, when two of Trump's sons have also been given jobs?

[minifingerz]

It must be so hard to be a full time working mother like Ivanka who has a nanny, a cleaner, a cook, a personal shopper, top notch private health care, children at private schools, tutors, a personal stylist, the most expensive education money could buy, regular foreign holidays, private air travel, a personal trainer, multiple homes all over the world, no mortgage.

How does she do it!

[annandale]

I don't want a man of Donald Trump's thin skin getting paranoid and isolated in the White House, so the presence of people he presumably trusts in the team is one factor that could prevent Trumpageddon.

Agree too that if they can make mandatory paid family leave happen in the US, they've done something really great.

[peachesandcreamdream]

It's the patronising tone of the video

[minifingerz]

"Why pick on her, when two of Trump's sons have also been given jobs?"

Absolutely.

Let NO ONE accuse Trump of trying to influence the public into thinking that he's not a misogynist windbag by getting his publicists to vomit out hundreds of stories about his clever and beautiful daughter working her exquisitely manicured fingers to the bone for her family and also serving the nation by taking up a government post.

[minifingerz]

"Agree too that if they can make mandatory paid family leave happen in the US"

I think he wants to reduce the burden of legislation on industry not increase it.

[MissMargie]

Work conditions in the US are pretty ruthless.
Hardly any leave, long days. I knew a lady who took a new job as an admin assistant - new job so she got 3 days leave a year, this was someone with 3 children.
Minimal conditions are possibly due to immigrants accepting worse conditions and lowering the stakes.

[Amalfimamma]

jdoe8 from your previous posts and comments I personally think it's a bit rich that you talk about living in the real world because you clearly don't......

[minifingerz]

"Minimal conditions are possibly due to immigrants accepting worse conditions and lowering the stakes"

Yes, blame immigrants rather than greedy employers and a lack of legislation protecting workers rights.

[prettyusefulsometimes]

In 2004 DT said about maternity leave (on camera), pregnancy is "a wonderful thing for the woman, a wonderful thing for the husband, it's certainly an inconvenience for the business. And whether people want to say that or not, the fact is it is an inconvenience for a person that is running a business. "

Note the classic Trump gaslighting of 'hey, it's other people saying this not me!'
The DT camp were only looking into whether 6 weeks maternity leave was feasible, no paternity leave and it was unclear whether same-sex couples would be included.

Hilary Clinton's campaign was promising to work towards 12 weeks of paid leave regardless of gender and whether the child was adopted or biological.

Ivanka went back to working for her father less than two weeks after giving birth to her last child, and allegedly expected her executive employees to do the same.

Her clothing line and that of her father's is produced in China, Vietnam etc.

[Believeitornot]

Yes, blame immigrants rather than greedy employers and a lack of legislation protecting workers rights

^this a million times

Pretty ironic that the EU is what has given us our superior (to the US) worker rights.

[GingerIvy]

Goodness, the way people go on, you'd think she was the first person to ever benefit from having a wealthy parent.

[minifingerz]

"Goodness, the way people go on, you'd think she was the first person to ever benefit from having a wealthy parent."

It's true that lots of leaders come from insanely wealthy families.

It's why so many of them are fucking arseholes who have no understanding of the lives of 99% of the population who they're supposed to be serving.

[MissMargie]

I didn't blame the immigrants I explained why the nasty employers are able to behave the way they do. Why let common sense get in the way of a left wing rant.
It's the way the US became the richest country in the world - endless hard working immigrants. I'm not just talking about Latinos picking fruit - the whole economy from the gold rush on was based on endless immigrants. Now it depends on highly educated immigrants to run the computing industry.

[harshbuttrue1980]

I quite like Ivanka. I read her book a few years ago (the first one, she also has a new one coming out), and she was very honest about the fact that she had a leg up from her Dad, but also made the point that he wouldn't have let her have such a senior position if she hadn't been good. Her dad gave her a flat, but she had to pay a mortgage on it, and she is proud that she never missed a payment.

Wealthy people are always going to use their connections - its not fair in a way, but impossible to overcome. I think women can't win - someone like Paris Hilton chooses to float around being a party girl, and she's accused of being lazy. Ivanka Trump chooses to work, and her achievements are put down because of who her dad is. I was born on a council estate and will never have those advantages, but they didn't choose to be born into wealth any more than I chose to be born into a hard-up family. I'm glad that Ivanka is working rather than blowing her dad's money on drugs and partying. Wherever people start from, they should work hard.

[jdoe8]

jdoe8 from your previous posts and comments I personally think it's a bit rich that you talk about living in the real world because you clearly don't......

What exactly does that mean? I've been homeless (although stayed with family / friends so not pretending i've been on the streets), a single mum, long term on JSA. What counts as the real world for you?