To think this child should be in school?

(35 Posts)
LondonNightOwl Fri 10-Jun-16 00:06:45

How long is reasonable for a child to miss school when visiting a parent in another country ? Child (junior school age) of a friend is currently staying with parent in the UK. Child normally lives in another European country - child is staying in the UK until October currently (arrived in April) and friend has no plans to register him at a school. Is friend allowed to do this (as in keep him out of education for 6 months?) confused

Friend works f/t so won't be homeschooling

katemiddletonsnudeheels Fri 10-Jun-16 00:11:00

I'd think it depends on the laws from his home country. He'll be learning English!

fatmomma99 Fri 10-Jun-16 00:13:54

depends on the age. In the UK children (by law) should be in full time education the term after they turn 5. In some European countries it is older, so they might well - by UK standards - have to be in school but if the parents live outside the UK it's not an issue to them, because their children don't have to be in school until some time later, depending on the country.

arethereanyleftatall Fri 10-Jun-16 00:16:49

Who will be looking after said child whilst your friend works?

LondonNightOwl Fri 10-Jun-16 00:22:09

Neighbor wanted me to look after his son whilst he works but I refused. He's been off work since his son arrived but has gone back this week - I think he's using another neighbor (who has similar age kids) for childminding

bloodyteenagers Fri 10-Jun-16 00:23:10

Home school doesn't have to happen 9-3. That's one of the reasons why home school is an option. There are no actual set hours for hs either so it is totally possible to work ft and hs.
If English isn't the child's first language and is learning, that could be said its hs.
Obviously the child will be somewhere during this time and that person could be educating the child.

MadamDeathstare Fri 10-Jun-16 00:23:12

If he is younger than 7 he wouldn't need to be in school in the US. Here children only have to start education in first grade, they can miss pre-school and Kindergarten completely if their parents want.

Maybe it is similar in his home country.

bloodyteenagers Fri 10-Jun-16 00:24:54

So it's possible that until this week the child was having some education.
Depending on the lea there might not actually be a place especially for a child who is a visitor.

FarelyKnuts Fri 10-Jun-16 00:25:24

It's 7 years old in Ireland too (though most go at 5). And a good few other European countries.

MrsSpecter Fri 10-Jun-16 00:28:37

hmm education doesnt just happen between 9 and 3. Of course s/he can be home educated with a WOHP parent.

NickiFury Fri 10-Jun-16 00:28:55

No child "should" be in school. All children "should" receive an appropriate eduction. THAT is the law.

NickiFury Fri 10-Jun-16 00:29:24

And it doesn't necessarily have to take place in a school.

dizzyfucker Fri 10-Jun-16 00:29:28

But you said juniors, which is 8 plus right. The latest children start is 7. It's only 6 months, which in the grand scheme of things isn't much. Some counties have really long summer holidays. For example if he was in Florida he would stop school in May and go back in August. So only missing 3 months of actual school. Could this be the case?

zzzzz Fri 10-Jun-16 00:51:49

Of course he can HE and work, and of course the child doesn't have to go to school.

Ditsy4 Fri 10-Jun-16 00:52:21

No they come into juniors at 7.
Travellers children often have six months off.
Your neighbour should be registered as a childminder.čss

Nataleejah Fri 10-Jun-16 05:11:09

In other countries people have more freedom or much longer holidays. I'm sure this child will catch up somehow.

branofthemist Fri 10-Jun-16 05:44:33

I think it's non of your business.

There was a family on TV a few weeks ago who took their children out of school for a year to go travelling. They were home schooled during that year. The school was very supportive and felt they would learn a lot in the year and the kids were returning to school.

He will be learning or improving English and, if he is in school, they may think it's great.

Home schooling is fab. We did it with Dd, but she wanted to good secondary school. Life was so much easier and relaxed. I would do it again if ds wanted to.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions Fri 10-Jun-16 06:20:03

It's 7 years old in Ireland too (though most go at 5). And a good few other European countries

No it it's 6 in Ireland they must have started junior infants by the term before they turn 6.

Autumn and baby's born until February generally start in line with uk starts so the term year they will be five, after March many many parents start them the September after their five. It's up to the parents and it generally avoids the summer born problem, although I've known some August borns start at just four like in the uk but it's not the norm.

Any way that wasn't the point of the thread I know.
Here's the age of complusary school start ages in other European countries.
The later starters often have complusary pre school for a year.

And home ed doesn't have to be 9-5 in fact the Beauty of home ed is it's can be almost constant enquiry and learning, there's no time table too it, even things like going to Aquariams, zoos etc that would be seen as a weekend treat are an oppunity to learn.

Also my friend who used to work in Australia would have his children for a month, frpm October to November, he'd get a tutor to come and keep to the curriculum the kids were used to while he was at work. It could be that the child in question here is having lessons from tutors etc.

allegretto Fri 10-Jun-16 06:23:30

IT depends on the country. My twins start school in sept when they are 6 1/2. My older son is at secondary school and it has already broken up until mid Sept. They wouldn't have a problem with him missing a few weeks to go abroad anyway.

NaughtToThreeSadOnions Fri 10-Jun-16 06:34:01

And on the summer holidays, I actually think the uk has one of the shortest summer holidays along with Germany.

Irish secondary schools finished last week other than those doing their junior and leaving certs. National schools (primary schools) end at the end of June
Denmark late June
France Belgium break up early July

Bulgaria primary schools finish late May and secondary schools late June

Just5minswithDacre Fri 10-Jun-16 06:48:14

I'd stop worrying about the education angle; there's no 'should' about how parents choose to educate their child.

The ad hoc childcare (palming off of said child on random neighbours as he goes along) sounds more of a concern to me.

dizzyfucker Fri 10-Jun-16 06:58:04

Bulgarian primary children get 14-15 weeks summer holidays! Fuck me that's long, suprised they even remember where the school is after the summer.

NynaevesSister Fri 10-Jun-16 07:02:06

I don't get why he doesn't just enrol the child in school. It's six months and he clearly needs to work. If they're in London the school will be more than capable of handling a child that doesn't speak English.

nuttymango Fri 10-Jun-16 07:02:35

The UK law doesn't say that children have to be at school, it says that they have to be educated.

NynaevesSister Fri 10-Jun-16 07:03:45

We spent time in another country when it was summer holidays here but not holidays there. I sent son to school there for a week as thought the experience would be good as so different to UK. He loved it.

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