Reception daughter lack of friends

(34 Posts)
DevonLodger Mon 24-Mar-14 16:11:31

I have my daughter's parents meeting tomorrow and would be really grateful to know whether or not I would be unreasonable to bring this up with her class teacher.

Briefly, daughter started at medium sized country primary school in September. There are 28 children in her class. She actually went to a different pre-school than the one attached to the school but I preferred this school for her. She knew no one at the school at all when she started. In the first few weeks she had a few invitations to birthday parties; just three but nothing at all since October. She hasn't been invited to play with any children nor does she ask for other children to come to play with her (she gets the bus to and from school so I don't get an chance to see any parents or children before or after school). She says from time to time that no one likes her and that she plays on her own. She has a birthday coming up and one of the girls in her class has told her that she will be sick on the day of her party. I'm putting off organising it because I don't know who to invite.

She is PFB. So as not to drip feed, I was badly bullied at school and excluded by "friends" for many years leaving quite lasting confidence issues. My daughter is more like her dad. Quiet but confident in herself and seemingly not too worried about lack of friends. I'm sure its more me than her but if anyone has any insight into this and whether and how I should mention it to the teacher please do share.

WooWooOwl Mon 24-Mar-14 16:21:29

It's definitely worth talking to the teacher about, she will be able to tell you whether your daughters account is accurate or if she does really play with people but the few times she hasn't have stuck out in her mind.

A lot of parents do make a huge effort in reception to sort out after school play dates so that their children have friends, and a lot of that is done in the playground while waiting for the bell to ring in the morning or while waiting to pick up at the end of the day. If you can't be there for other parents to ask, then it's more likely that that is the reason for the lack of invitations rather than your dd never playing with anyone.

I wouldn't worry too much about the comment from the other child about being sick, reception age children say stuff like that all the time, it's meaningless, even though it can be hurtful for you to hear.

IdkickJilliansAss Mon 24-Mar-14 16:22:25

thanks the teacher should bring it up as part of the report, they have to cover socialisation, if they don't you'd definitely not BU to raise it

StinkyElfCheese Mon 24-Mar-14 16:22:27

do mention it to the teacher. DT2 has this problem most of his class of 30 came from one nursery and he finds it hard to crack into their little group. He never gets invited to parties from his class just as a +1 on his twin brothers friends smile

His teacher trys very hard to get them to all play together but its hard for her when the rest of the children all see each other outside school.

is there only 1 class? DT's school have 3 reception classes and #dt2 has been making friends in other classes, could she do this?

Does she get the bus alone?!

B52s Mon 24-Mar-14 16:25:15

DS1 is a loner and often says he doesn't play with anyone, or sit with anyone. But he is happy at school and has enough acquaintances to invite to parties. He does know a lot of kids in a lot of the classes but doesn't necessarily call them friends. I would bring it up with the teacher as she should be aware of the dynamics in the classroom and will be able to tell you if your DD is happy or not.

CrushingCandies Mon 24-Mar-14 16:25:36

Feel free to bring it up with her teacher. But for us (dd is in reception too) we don't have anyone over to play as dd is too tired after school.
Not all kids have parties either dd has only been to two so far.

I'd definitely bring up the little girl in question and ask the teacher to keep an eye out and nip anything nasty in the bud.

It is very hard to think of our kids not being liked. sad

Bunbaker Mon 24-Mar-14 16:34:50

When DD was in reception, generally it was the parents who arranged playdates (I hate that word) after school. It was always those whose parents were never at school who never got invited anywhere, or those who went to childminders.

Does your daughter travel on the bus on her own?

Bunbaker Mon 24-Mar-14 16:35:45

I meant to add, that showing your face at school now and again might help.

DevonLodger Mon 24-Mar-14 16:35:55

Thank you all for your comments. She gets the bus from a stop at the end of our road with a few other children mainly in different years. There are a couple in her year but they both have older siblings who they sit with so she always sits on her own.

Whilst the class is large its just one class per year group. Its a really nice school in a rural area of the south west. The children are all lovely as far as I can see (I volunteered for a school trip) and so is her teacher. Thanks for your experiences of party invitations. I am becoming a bit obsessed with scouring her school bag when she comes home in the desperate hope she will have an invitation.

loveandsmiles Mon 24-Mar-14 16:37:20

My DD2 is in P2 (Scotland) and has never been invited to a friend's house to play and never asks for a friend to play at our house. She does get invited to parties and at her recent party we invited the class and everyone came. She just doesn't have a special friend like my other children seem to have.

It is a good idea to speak to her teacher who can hopefully put your mind at rest. I have spoken to my DD2 teacher in the past who said she is confident and sociable, she mixes with everyone but is also happy to do her own thing.

I guess all children are different but as long as she is happy there is not a problem smile

DevonLodger Mon 24-Mar-14 16:39:02

Bunbaker - I agree that it doesn't help that I am never at the school. I shall try and pick her up a few afternoons a week.

justmyview Mon 24-Mar-14 16:48:21

I definitely think that being at school gate sometimes would help. If you invite children to your house then sooner or later I'm sure she'll be invited back

mymiraclebubba Mon 24-Mar-14 16:50:35

I agree that talking to the teacher is a good idea as is meeting parents and inviting their kids over. The others probably all know each other from pre school so it may be difficult for them to understand to include your dd esp if she is quiet.

I would invite the whole class toner birthday as it will give you a chance to meet other parents and arrange additional play dates

Ronmione Mon 24-Mar-14 16:51:18

Your 5 year old gets the bus on her own?

LadyCybilCrawley Mon 24-Mar-14 16:53:21

ok, I would definitely talk to the teacher

friendships are hard at this age - they are learning the skills to navigate the social setting and there is a lot of hurt along the way as they learn

having said that, I don't like the comment from her that "no one likes her" and that she plays on her own - that would definitely peak my concern here - And the comment about "going to be sick" (if that was indeed what was said because things can be misconstrued) is mean spirited

after talking to the teacher and getting more information, i'd be taking the bull by the horns and arranging playdates - its mostly the parents at this age who do this - i'd be reaching out to every girl's mother in the class and setting them up one per weekend for as long as it takes

i'd ALSO be monitoring the playdates gently and unobtrusively to ensure "success" - whether it be cooking biscuits together and decorating, or painting, or building a fort outside, or whatever it is

some children need social skills within the playdate setting demonstrated so they can model their own behavior on them - not every kid just "gets on with it" and finds it easy

good luck with this - I've been through this with my son, so i'm speaking a little from experience

ps. there are some great books on playing which kids can read or have read to them - i'll try to find a link for you - it helped our son enormously (one book used role playing between our son and my husband and that was incredibly helpful for our son)

dobedobedo Mon 24-Mar-14 16:55:27

Do mention it to the teacher. I had the same issue with ds when we moved to a new area and a new school. I had a couple of meetings with the teacher about it as IMO friends are crucial to children and it's horrible when no one will play with them.
The school should have a buddy system or some tricks and strategies to help kids who aren't fitting in.

DevonLodger Mon 24-Mar-14 16:58:26

Thanks for your comments. I will get on with sorting out her birthday party and will invite the whole class. Thanks for that suggestion.

Ronmione, yes she gets the bus on her own with the other children on her route. Its a school bus. I couldn't have imagined it myself his time last year. Because we are more than 3 miles away from her school she gets a bus pass. Its very common in rural areas for children to get a bus to school. When she started I took her and picked her up from school because I thought that she was just too young. But she really wanted to get the bus so I agreed. She enjoys the trip, it teaches her confidence and independence and its very convenient for me. The downside of course is that I miss out on the playground thing.

TheBody Mon 24-Mar-14 16:58:44

ah op it can be hard. definatly try to get yourself to the school gates if you can. join the PTA? I know it's a pain but it's all about getting to know the other parents. in reception class it's the parents making the dates not the kids.

arrange a party for her birthday and chat to the teacher. you may be worrying about nothing.

I am a reception class TA and the bullshit the kids come out with like noone will play with me? I hate school etc when you have just seen them in the thick of a game with friends.

bless 'em. grin

Ronmione Mon 24-Mar-14 17:11:16

Sorry it's just seems so strange, my niece really struggles with friends, she's the same age. I think you must really get some play dates going. Does she mention other childrens names at all? Are there any extra curriculum clubs she can do?

One last questions, is she one of the youngest?

What are the teachers doing to support her,

Hollygolightlyandcat Mon 24-Mar-14 17:12:30

I think that you need to be pro active on your daughters behalf. Arrange lots of playdates at your house (just tea and the park doesn't need to be anything fancy) for the children your daughter says she likes. Don't look for invites back (people are busy and you may be waiting a while) just concentrate on building friendships for your daughter.

You don't need to go to the school gate for this - all arrangements I make are via text. Put a note for the mum of the child/ children who you want to invite over with your name and number and ask them to text you as you want to invite their child over. I would only invite one child at a time over though.

It takes a while for children new to the school to break into established groups and playing outside school is one of the best ways of doing this.

As well as this try to find out if any of the other kids go to activities eg rainbows, dancing or gymnastics - doing activities together outside school is great for making friends.

AngelinaCongleton Mon 24-Mar-14 17:16:55

I always start the play date request, sending a note in with my child if I don't know the parent and invite them too. I wouldn't wait for her to be invited. I'd invite someone round every other week until you make a breakthrough. The good thing is at this age hardly anyone says no.

ShoeWhore Mon 24-Mar-14 17:18:00

You've already had loads of good advice and I won't repeat it but a couple of things I thought worth adding: certainly at our school the staff won't leave one child on their own (unless they desperately want to be!) - they are very good at gently encouraging games where everyone can join in. The other thing is I found that a brief moment alone where they were perhaps between games would really stick in my dcs' minds, even if a minute later they were right in the thick of it again.

NoodleOodle Mon 24-Mar-14 17:18:24

Agree with the consensus. Invite the whole class to her party. At the party, see who she interacts with. Grab their parents at pick up time and take their mobile numbers and start organising the play dates from there.

AwfulMaureen Mon 24-Mar-14 17:18:41

I don't think you should worry about the amount of invitations....my DD is in year one and has had 3 since September...she's very popular and social...there just have not been many whole class parties and some kids haven't had ANY party at all...very normal. You will find there are more in Spring and summer in my experience.

Ask the teacher how she's doing socially and ask who she gets on well with so you know who to invite to her party if you're not doing a whole class one...some parents don't do any playdates in reception...my DDs school didn't begin really until year one.

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