Would you report - yes or no?

(280 Posts)
fluffyraggies Fri 06-Sep-13 11:13:56

Quick poll:

A person you know, not family, is growing, using and selling weed (in high enough quantities to turn a tidy profit) year round.

Would you report them to the police?

acer12 Fri 06-Sep-13 21:02:10

project grin its true though! I have done a tiny bit of work with youths in my club about drugs/alcahol . Nearly all of the kids that said they had used had said they had been drinking first. Also weeded being laced with more addictive substances is on the rise and the strength of the THC is being manipulated. So it's not the same as it was back in the day but that's what happens when dick heads set up a grow.

I hate pissheads as much as pot heads. Both used in moderation is fine, but the majority will over indulge and that's when the shit starts .. On both issues.

No one should be producing any thing to be consumed with out being regulated alcahol/drugs. Fake alcahol is just as bad!!

maddening Fri 06-Sep-13 20:48:29

Ps I always thought that weed was a gateway drug more because it put he user in touch with dealers /criminals and so access to harder drugs - any drug even alcohol could lower a persons inhibitions and perception so much that they might try drugs if offered. One example is non smokers that smoke socially when drinking. And someone who smokes weed is more likely to drink and smoke and be (due to it's illegality) in more permissive circles if friends - but again if legalised would be less of an issue.

CharityFunDay Fri 06-Sep-13 20:45:54

I wouldn't report them to the police, because I don't believe cannabis use to be a major social evil, and I don't think dealing in it makes you a bad person.

maddening Fri 06-Sep-13 20:41:42

If he were part of gang culture/ criminal culture then I would - it's that part of thr illegality of the drug that I don't like - but I am not against weed - I think alcohol is worse than cannabis and it's the illegality of it that makes it part if a dark world.

Like alcohol there are imacts on health of varying degrees and that risk is down to the consumer who does so these days knowing those risks.

If your friend is just growing it himself and selling to adult individuals (ie not part of a drug ring or however you define a criminal drug network) then I would probably not report it.

DownstairsMixUp Fri 06-Sep-13 20:40:53

For selling yes I would. I wouldn't report for someone personal using if they didn't have kids living at home with them.

OnTheBottomWithAWomensWeekly Fri 06-Sep-13 20:40:10

nope.It's weed, they aren't cooking meth.I couldn't care less.

ProjectGainsborough Fri 06-Sep-13 20:23:44

Goddammit, acer you're supposed to disagree with me, so we can have a proper bunfight wink

Re-reading the OP and the mention of repercussions, I would tread carefully if I did decide to report..

candycoatedwaterdrops Fri 06-Sep-13 20:21:14

I'm surprised it took this long for the "cure for cancer" line to be brought up. hmm

ZingWantsCake Fri 06-Sep-13 20:20:21

In theory I'd like to say yes, but in reality I would be worried about any retaliation and potential harm caused to my children by angry drug lords with guns.

(I watch too much tv)

so I'm afraid I probably wouldn't. blush

KatyPutTheCuttleOn Fri 06-Sep-13 20:19:14

Yes. Growing for their own use, perhaps no. Dealing, yes without a doubt.

Consils Fri 06-Sep-13 20:17:39

Leave it be.

acer12 Fri 06-Sep-13 20:17:16

project it is!!

portraitoftheartist Fri 06-Sep-13 20:16:53

No I wouldn't report. Nicotine and alcohol are infinitely more harmful. If the government could charge tax on weed, that would be legal too.

ProjectGainsborough Fri 06-Sep-13 20:05:28

Surely alcohol is the biggest gateway drug, anyway?

SlowlorisIncognito Fri 06-Sep-13 19:56:14

I agree it is a myth that most weed users live on estates. The places I know with the most users of weed and other drugs are student areas. A lot of universities have real drug cultures.

I accept weed is dangerous, particularly to those with a history of mental illness. Scitzophrenia is partially genetic (to what extent is not really agreed), and I would definately advise someone that if they had someone in their family who had scitzophrenia or other psychotic illnesses, then they should not smoke either. Also, as most people smoke weed with tobacco, they have all the associated risks of smoking. Obviously driving whilst taking drugs is very dangerous, just as drink driving is.

I do think alchohol is more dangerous. For starters you can overdose on alchohol and die of that overdose fairly easily. Alchohol seems more likely to make people agressive/wreckless, and lots of people every year die due to accidents they have whilst drunk (the one I often hear of is people swimming in the sea whilst drunk). I think alchohol is much more likely to directly cause death. It is also linked to more health problems, if you take tobacco out of the equation.

I do think some softer drugs should be legalised. I think this would help demystify them and make them more regulated. I think it would help with the issue of "gateway drugs". It might make it easier for people to seak help for their addictions, as they are not also admitting to commiting a crime. It would also help remove drugs as a funding source for organised crime.

All of that said, if this man is dangerous and often high, chances are his weed growing opperation will not be safe- it is a fire risk and can sometimes cause other damage. For this reason alone, I think it's worth reporting. However, if you are really worried about reprocussions and think he might work out it was you, then you should take care of your personal safety first.

LimitedEditionLady Fri 06-Sep-13 19:55:21

Btw i havent said dont tell your kids the dangers,i said that you can do that and they can still choose not to listen.I knew what i was doing.I still did it.

ProjectGainsborough Fri 06-Sep-13 19:54:28

No, acer I'm lucky enough not to know anyone addicted to heroin. The OP asked for a straw poll of what we would do in that situation. I would base my decision on my experience.

I suppose in my experience, weed or pills or the like wasn't the gateway to the really damaging stuff, although I note that that hasn't been the case for everyone on here and that has given me food for thought.

notanyanymore Fri 06-Sep-13 19:52:43

So why should alcohol be allowed for recreational use? That is the only truly legal high in this country and if reclassified today would more than likely be a class A due to the effect on motor control, aggression, emotion and level of addiction.

Alcohol is extremely addictive, extremely destructive to developing brains and bodies and the issues are far more widely documented than any strain of cannabis which has grown and been consumed by mammals for far longer than we have been creating ethanol.

If you are stupid enough to think that any growing child should be allowed to consume anything that could alter the development of their brain then you should not be allowed children. That includes caffeine, nicotine, cannabis, valium, ecstasy, cocaine, alcohol or heroin and so much more. Also if you don't want them to become fat and depressed, you shouldn't give them a lot of sugar.

If you are a bad parent, and you don't teach these things to your children and teach them why they shouldn't do it while they are young then it will come back to bite you in the ass.

If you also didn't teach your child good manners and the value of hard work, then i wouldn't be surprised if you would be the kind of person who would blame cannabis for your own failings when they hit puberty and become naturally rebellious.

There's a lot of cannabis about and sadly the sale of it is still not regulated in this country and therefore its a lot easier for kids to get hold of. We need to teach our kids about the consumption of intoxicants as a whole and how the effects of using underage, overusing and mixing substances can be extremely tragic.

If you lie to your child and they find out you lied, they will just not trust you about that subject.. not any any more.

GingerBlackAndOriental Fri 06-Sep-13 19:43:14

acer

Like you can see in my previous post I agree it's not the same for everyone, just like alcohol it affects everyone differently.

I can say for sure if it was going to affect my mental health it would have done in the 11 years that I smoked it. I smoked a lot. I don't drink and never have, I only ever got stoned, laughed my ass off and ate yummy food when I got the munchies.

LimitedEditionLady Fri 06-Sep-13 19:38:24

You can tell your kids not to do something they will still do it if they choose.We were all kids once.
im sorry are you saying you know 8 and 9year olds who smoke weed?
I smoked weed for 6 years,i worked full time,went to college and ran our household.You would have no idea to look at me then or now that i did.I wasnt and am not now a dopey layabout.I have never taken any other drug or have ever wanted to,i dont even take painkillers and I dont drink.I never harmed anyone or put anyone at risk.

acer12 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:34:50

project so because you know lots of ex druggies who seem fine, drugs are ok? hmm
Clearly you have never met any any one in the claws of heroin?

acer12 Fri 06-Sep-13 19:32:10

Well your very lucky then ginger but its not the same for every one else is it? You can't say that if you had carried on smoking it it wouldn't have effected your out look on life/ mental health. Maybe you stopped just in time...

ProjectGainsborough Fri 06-Sep-13 19:30:55

Opened the thread to say no. Know lots of people who have done all sorts of drugs with no ill effect, including nice old buffers who smoke weed to relax. I have, however, known an alcoholic whose life was ruined by perfectly legal booze. (Or rather, was raised by one).

Reading the thread has given me pause for thought. Although, in my experience it has been harmless, I guess that's not everyone's experience.

I still wouldn't report, though, unless I knew for sure that he was dealing to children or such like, because based on my experience, it's extremely unlikely to cause harm.

usualsuspect Fri 06-Sep-13 19:30:28

The biggest stoners I know do not live on estates.

usualsuspect Fri 06-Sep-13 19:29:18

Once again the myth that 'estates' are the only places with a weed problem.

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