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to think that Green Party candidates should be vegetarian?

(57 Posts)
TeddyBare Sat 04-May-13 15:55:08

Given that the environmental damage caused by the meat industry is pretty serious and undeniable, aibu to think that someone trying to get elected for the green party should be vegetarian? I had lunch with some old friends, one of whom has a partner who ran in a council election for the Green party in England. The green party guy had meat for starter and main. Is it just me who finds this rather hypocritical?

TondelayoSchwarzkopf Sat 04-May-13 15:57:53

Depends, if it was Findus Cheese & Bacon crispy pancakes followed by intensively farmed veal maybe but wouldn't bother me if it was organic, free range produce.

More importantly, I think the Green Party should stop supporting Homeopathy and vandalising GM research and then maybe I would think about voting for them.

aftermay Sat 04-May-13 15:59:03

I think they should also wear long beards and wash with restraint. Saving water is important.

aftermay Sat 04-May-13 16:00:25

I think they've changed their stance on homeopathy nowadays. They saw the (non-electrical, sustainable) light.

squoosh Sat 04-May-13 16:01:24

Interesting question but no I don't think you need to be a vegetarian to be a Green. Anti factory farming certainly.

stargirl1701 Sat 04-May-13 16:03:06

No. I think if you eat organic, locally produced meat then that is fine.

claraschu Sat 04-May-13 16:04:18

YANBU

People are in denial about the environmental damage done by the meat industry. The Green Party should be fighting this difficult battle.

aftermay Sat 04-May-13 16:06:40

OP, I think your standards are too high. It's like asking Tony Blair not to send his kids to private schools. I couldn't think of any more up to date example but I'm sure we can come up with a good list.

squoosh Sat 04-May-13 16:06:55

They would remain a very niche party if they limited membership to vegetarians only. I think they have a bit too much ambition as a party for that.

HollyBerryBush Sat 04-May-13 16:08:45

But they hug trees

TeddyBare Sat 04-May-13 16:09:29

I think organic, free-range, locally sourced meat is enough of an effort if you're an average person. But even that is worse for the environment that not eating meat, so I feel like someone trying to get elected on environmental issues should be making a bigger effort that everyone else. Lead by example and all that.

OttilieKnackered Sat 04-May-13 16:11:45

Tony Blair didn't send his children to private schools.

JuliaScurr Sat 04-May-13 16:12:21

the Greens should stop making cuts when they promised not to

TeddyBare Sat 04-May-13 16:14:45

Julia are you confusing the Greens with the Lib Dems?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine Sat 04-May-13 16:16:55

YABU. Being vegetarian is just a pointless middle class way of feeling better, and being smug about, their choices.

A truly committed green party member should be vegan...

uncongenial Sat 04-May-13 16:19:54

No, I don't think it's hypocrital at all.

uncongenial Sat 04-May-13 16:20:24

hypocritical, even!

VerySmallSqueak Sat 04-May-13 16:25:40

I think you make a fair point there.
I'm interested to see what others say while I sit on the fence.

WMittens Sat 04-May-13 16:27:08

Given that the environmental damage caused by the meat industry is pretty serious and undeniable

Being...?

Beamur Sat 04-May-13 16:30:27

YABU
It's not that simple. But I would agree that what kind of meat they choose to eat does matter.

k2togm1 Sat 04-May-13 16:31:48

I thought they had also changed their gm stance???

Being vegan isn't so green either, not much soya being grown in the uk, and all those procesed imitation sausages are very carbon intensive.
I'd say a green candidate has to be vegetarian unless he eats the single pig that he breeds and slaughters once a year, and perhaps a chicken or two also from his own back garden. I'd be more inclined to say they had to cycle everywhere.

fubbsy Sat 04-May-13 16:51:06

YABU The Green Party is just a political party like any other. Members don't have to all agree on everything. If someone is a member of the party and supports the points in party manifesto IMO they are not being hypocriticalto stand. In the material I saw for our local elections, there was no mention of farming or vegetarianism
But then again, I am a pragmatist wink

SwishSwoshSwoosh Sat 04-May-13 17:03:49

I think YABU. Living sustainably is not about a single issue or a single right decision on every issue. It is a whole-lifestyle thing. If you have ever measured your carbon footprint, small things like occasional meat consumption make a small difference. Flying even once a year makes a massive difference.

Meat production is an environmental issue but the answer is for everyone to reduce, not simply for green candidates to be vegetarian. It is ok for a green candidate to eat meat.

I would expect all green candidates in western societies to aim for sustainable lifestyles but they are still allowed to have a life, it is pretty hard to achieve zero carbon lifestyle whilst still being alive!

fubbsy Sat 04-May-13 17:45:40

In most areas, the Green Party candidates will know they have no realistic prospect of being elected. If the people want to give up their free time (and probably spend their own money) to go out in public and talk to people about issues they care about, good for them. If they are my political allies, even better, but I still don't expect all my allies to be exactly like me.

StuntGirl Sat 04-May-13 18:35:00

YABU. It's the Green Party not the Vegetarian Party.

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