to not understand how anybody could like or respect Tony Blair?

(59 Posts)
ophelia275 Mon 29-Apr-13 10:22:15

The more I read about him and his "accomplishments", the more I think he is a disgusting, immoral, self-serving, greedy little man. How can anyone possibly like or even respect this guy?

landofsoapandglory Mon 29-Apr-13 10:23:15

I agree with you!

lottieandmia Mon 29-Apr-13 10:26:17

I agree....but so are most of them imo.

ChocolateCakePlease Mon 29-Apr-13 10:37:30

He is a horrrible little man and as for that wife of his...

slhilly Mon 29-Apr-13 11:03:41

Blair was clearly deeply flawed, and I happen to think that he probably made the wrong call on Iraq, although it seems to me that all the courses of action open at that time were pretty grim.

However, he had an undeniable record of success on some extremely important issues, and it does no-one any favours to ignore them. They include Northern Ireland, the ending of waiting times for the NHS and other really huge service improvements, an increase in funding for the NHS to continental European levels, education reforms that improved the life chances of many many children, the abolition of Section 28 and the introduction of civil partnerships.

I suggest reading Deliverology for a helpful take on some of these successes.

slhilly Mon 29-Apr-13 11:04:48

I am especially wary of people making comments about Cherie Blair. She said very little publicly, so most of our impressions of her are formed from gossip and innuendo. She has an impressive track record as a human rights lawyer.

Wannabestepfordwife Mon 29-Apr-13 11:08:59

Completely agree with you I was 10 when he got in and thought he was a slimey liar and I still think the same

Cailinsalach Mon 29-Apr-13 11:22:36

I like him. I like his wife. I like his politics. I like his personality.
I think he has made mistakes. So have I. I think he made a decision about Iraq knowing it would destroy him politically but went ahead and did what he thought was the right thing at the time, hindsight proving it was wrong.
There are worse than him. And why the hate for his wife? What has she done to you?

Sugarice Mon 29-Apr-13 11:44:37

Tony Blair lied in Parliament regarding Iraq.

His expenses were mysteriously shredded before the scandal came to light, I would love to have known what he had to hide.

He is a narcissist who probably thinks the world would be in a better place if he was able to retain the office of Prime Minister and able to influence, thank God he didn't manage to be President of the European Union.

Awful man, I'm meh about Cherie, I bet she has to put up with an awful lot living with him!

BreconBeBuggered Mon 29-Apr-13 11:53:52

Triumph of smarm over substance. Yuk.

gordyslovesheep Mon 29-Apr-13 11:59:06

He is very likable in real life ...I am not a fan of his warmongery but I like his wife and fail to see why she is fair game when having a pop at him

LessMissAbs Mon 29-Apr-13 12:00:47

Because compared to the others of his ilk, smarmy and pr-seeking though he is, he's not the worst!

We have:

Gordon Brown (no proper job and 10 years doing a PHD on the History of the Labour Party in Scotland before becoming an MP, Chancellor and PM and ruining the economy)

John Prescott (assaults people on camera)

Mandelsson (money laundering/mortgage fraud)

All those lower ranking ones who fiddled their expenses

etc, etc..

Lottashakingoinon Mon 29-Apr-13 12:02:19

Gordy You took the words right out of my keyboard mouth.

LesMiss could you really not find any Tories to add to this list?

MummytoKatie Mon 29-Apr-13 12:02:21

I remember him getting in (I was 17 at the time) and being so excited and thinking he was brilliant.

And then the slow disappointment of discovering that he was just like all te others. That he was a politician.

I had a similar discovery about Clegg although nowhere near as much as I'm older and more cynical now.

Bramshott Mon 29-Apr-13 12:04:27

I think a lot of people have a residual like of him from the memory of 1 May 1997 and that feeling that finally the Tories were out after 18 years. I still remember walking around south London and people grinning and smiling at each other in the street!

BeckAndCall Mon 29-Apr-13 12:09:13

I've never voted labour in my life, not about to start now, but I have always admired Tony Blair for his clear headed convictions, his courage in keeping to what he believed was the right course when others doubted him, his willingness to take a stand against evil, his devotion to his family, and his continued dedication to solving the insolvable problem of Middle East politics.

And as for Cherie - an accomplished role model of a working mother at the top of her profession, living out her private life on camera with no privacy for her heartbreaking moments - who has never had the public platform on which to fight back against the kind of petty personal attack being dealt out to her here.

miemohrs Mon 29-Apr-13 12:10:51

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

I respect him because I remember what life was like before he and New Labour came to power.

The NHS was run into the ground, as were schools. Pensioners really did have to choose between heat and food, and the poorer families were absolutely poverty stricken.

Surestart, the minimum wage, the Welsh and Scottish referendums, a million children lifted out of poverty, ... I could go on and on. And on and on.

Just think of the Good Friday Agreement alone. I grew up in military town and we were all aware of the IRA because we had already suffered a massive explosion and many casualties in our quiet little town.

His tenure has been overshadowed by the war - but he raised the standard of living and quality of life for millions of people in the UK.

And for the ignorant comments that his wife has had to endure, words fail me.

FreedomOfTheTess Mon 29-Apr-13 12:36:32

Agree about Tony, but to the person who said "and as for that wife of his"...

Cherie Blair is a hugely respected and successful human rights lawyer, and don't forget also a QC, a commendable achievement for anyone (not least a woman).

Why don't you share your achievements with us, so we can compare?!

cleoowen Mon 29-Apr-13 12:37:54

I feel he did a lot for education, bringing in new curriculums and funding. Things are being screwed up by the current government.

Bridgetbidet Mon 29-Apr-13 12:42:47

Northern Ireland and the peace process was all constructed and negotiated by John Major's government. It was just taken over by Blair's grandstanding.

ubik Mon 29-Apr-13 12:45:37

He took us into an illegal war.

I can't forgive him for Iraq. There was such a positive feeling after Labour won the election, they had a huge majority, they could have done so much - and then suddenly we were invading Iraq. I went on march in London and it was incredible - here was the traditional Left, who voted Labour, protesting against the government they had elected, who was sending our young men and women to war on some sort of flaky premise that Saddam had 'Weapons of Mass Destruction,' and there was no evidence.

I can't forgive him for that.

slhilly Mon 29-Apr-13 13:14:48

Bridgetbidet, that is grossly unfair misrepresentation of the facts. Yes, Major's government played an exceptionally important role in getting the peace process kicked off. But I challenge you to find a quote from just one participant who was involved in the work leading up to Good Friday that backs up your assertion that he was merely a grandstander. I think you're telling yourself stories that sit comfortably with your worldview, rather than looking at the evidence.

redexpat Mon 29-Apr-13 13:25:33

Aside from the Iraq war, yes I like and admire and respect him. Like someone else said, I can remember the UK before he got in. Peace in Northern Ireland, national minimum wage (2/3 of those who benefitted were women), new laws on domestic violence, more educational opportunities, abolished section 28, civil partnerships, oh and let's not forget that Labour put women candidates in winnable seats, thus massively improving representation in parliament.

You should really hear him speak. He's a very good speaker.

whistleahappytune Mon 29-Apr-13 13:26:31

Bridget, you are incorrect. Blair deserves the credit for N.I. Major couldn't stomach dealing with Gerry Adams.

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