To think this is a mark of ownership, not a sign of love??

(121 Posts)
BertieBotts Fri 01-Feb-13 09:46:04

news.bme.com/2013/01/30/lesya-and-rouslan/

(Warning for nudity and also blood - not safe for work or children!)

So after a month of knowing this guy she gets married to him. A week later he's tattooed his name on her face. This is the same guy who "accidentally" tattooed 56 stars on a woman's face when she wanted 3 (which was apparently a language issue, but why on earth wouldn't you just draw out the design or something, I have no idea.)

I personally have no problem with tattoos and if someone wants to get their entire body tattooed then fair enough. But why start with the name? On the FACE? FIVE WEEKS. shock

And the picture of the tattoo in progress makes me feel a little ill. It's almost like the point of the photo was to show it in it's most horrific state, why would you want that publicised?

NomNomDePlumPudding Sat 02-Feb-13 20:41:37

have no problem with body mod/art, but this is a pretty egregious piece of livestock branding, and i think this woman will regret allowing it.

BertieBotts Sat 02-Feb-13 21:21:32

Ah, sorry. I posted this yesterday and then was busy and forgot about it.

StuntGirl it was a link I saw on facebook. I've never been on the BME site before and haven't looked at the rest of it so it wasn't intended to be a comment on the site in general.

I think that most of the time tattoos look beautiful, even "extreme" tattoos like full-body ones. I'd never personally have a face tattoo but I don't think it's disgusting if anyone else wants to. It was the speed of the relationship and the other stuff which disturbed me. I actually think it looks quite cool, but that's not the point.

FWIW even if "canvas" is a term commonly used by tattooists and tattoo owners I'm still a bit hmm about people talking about her body in a total object sense "What a canvas" etc. OK it might be an "amazing canvas", but it's her canvas.

StuntGirl Sat 02-Feb-13 21:24:44

Oh seriously Back2Two, if you can't tell the difference between someone having a different opinion of what they consider acceptable mods than you and mental illness then I don't know what to say to that.

You're confusing this one off situation with the status quo across the board. This situation is completely out of the boundaries even for most modified people (read the bme comments). Just because this man and woman did something so extreme please do not hold every person with a tattoo or piercing to that standard.

StuntGirl Sat 02-Feb-13 21:28:36

x-post.

Canvas is at best positive and at worst neutral in tone. I know some people seem to have read it in a negative way but it's never used to dehumanise people. I suspect the extreme subject matter here has forced that impression a little more than normal perhaps.

ErikNorseman Sat 02-Feb-13 21:40:56

Gross. Nasty and ugly. It's like an extreme form of master/slave branding or something. I guess she must get her rocks off at the thought of being branded property of her boyfriend. She's an utter fool but she's a grown up fool and entitled to be a complete twat if she wishes.

He is completely repulsive. His facial modifications are completely fug and his nose looks gross. I think he's trying to hide the fact that his looks are utterly ordinary. His cum gutters in that nekkid photo are podgy and unappealing, and if he wasn't tattooed he would look like any other out of shape, middle aged balding man with glasses.

Boomerwang Sat 02-Feb-13 21:41:06

Well tattooing hasn't made her bloke look any better.

EarlyMorningBaconDemon Sat 02-Feb-13 22:11:57

I wouldn't appreciate it, and if ANYONE tried anything along that lines then I'm 100% sure of how I'll react - which would be badly. However, it's her face, her life and (ultimately) her choice. I feel as though she's a huge fool, but if she has chosen to be a huge fool then so be it.

I bet you a tenner they break up within the next 2 years.

Back2Two Sat 02-Feb-13 22:18:15

I'm not sure what you're talking about stunt

As I've said, clearly, it's about him and the context of tatooing her face within days of meeting her.

Just because this man and woman did something so extreme please do not hold every person with a tattoo or piercing to that standard.

I have also clearly said it's nothing to do with every person who has tattoos or piercings. As I said, it would be a ridiculous belief to have. Not sure you've read my posts properly (and I'm not saying that provactively, just I do not have the belief you seem to be angry about me having)

Back2Two Sat 02-Feb-13 22:20:44

I'm not talking "across the board" and never was. I'm talking about this geezer and my opinion of his actions. From a mental health background perspective. Never said it wasn't up for debate. Stated an opinion for discussion.

ErikNorseman Sat 02-Feb-13 22:24:01

It's extremely egocentric to even want to tattoo your own name on someone else. I think I'd feel uncomfortable with a really committed partner wanting my name tattooed on him, let alone on his face! For this guy to think it was a good idea just shows that he's an extreme narcissist IMO.

PurityBrown Sat 02-Feb-13 22:41:09

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

pinkyredrose Sat 02-Feb-13 23:30:54

Erik you think he's a narcissist? I think that having children is the most narcissistic thing someone can do. I mean creating another being in your own image, how narcissistic is that!
So is being narcissist s bad thing?

ike1 Sun 03-Feb-13 00:26:49

I have to say I keep looking to see if my reaction is any less horrified but I am still appalled. It has, as someone has pointed out, OBLITERATED her, quite stunningly attractive features. There is no enhancement at all. I could kind of go with stars or that eyebrow tattoo...but that, in my opinion is an act of HATRED. I feel quite sickened, it is gross.

Pixel Sun 03-Feb-13 00:33:03

Thanks WordofTheDay smile

ike1 Sun 03-Feb-13 00:39:26

Ithink it says russia not rouslan

ErikNorseman Sun 03-Feb-13 08:02:59

Pinkyredrose
No, having children isn't narcissistic. What a bizarre point of view. Yes, I think this guy must be a narcissist to agree to permanently brand another person's face with his name, and no, I don't think that's a good thing.

PurityBrown Sun 03-Feb-13 08:05:35

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

YorkshireDeb Sun 03-Feb-13 08:08:53

Agreed eriknorseman. If anything, being a parent is the opposite of narcissism. You give up your own wants/needs completely for those of someone else. I did once read a bbc news article about how babies are naturally narcissistic & it was really interesting. X

Having children isn't narcissistic unless you are having them made as clones of yourself and with your name tattooed on them

comingintomyown Sun 03-Feb-13 08:22:59

Clicked on link expecting something like the allforlove one but that load of black ink ??? Grim

BertieBotts Sun 03-Feb-13 09:28:41

"Rouslan might be an over-entitled, misogynistic arsehole (I know him from BME) but he's hardly some malign Svengali kidnapping and tattooing young girls against their will."

That was kind of the point I was making though... it just has massive red flags all over it. (I accept I was wrong about the other star girl). It's not really likely that anyone would capture and tattoo someone against their will, but controlling relationships exist everywhere in society.

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